Fenman Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi all. I have a couple of these Pullman sets to paint in 'reversed' blue/grey livery. Now, looking at the picture of the very nice unit above, I am presuming the blue band is standard BR blue? Does anybody know what shade of grey is used, preferably from the Phoenix Precision range. I have done a search of the thread but can't find anything. The Pullman colour scheme was the exact reversal of the standard Rail Blue livery; same blue, same pearl grey. Can't help you with the Phoenix names, though. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Cheers Paul, most helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 whats the nankin blue like? I may purchase the full yellow end version and am contemplating a cab repaint into original blue, will the railmatch blue match bachmanns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 Never seen on the South Devon banks but it looks nice to me. Photo courtesy of member Trains&armour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I sold mine, will get another if/when they ever do a western region version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As much as the model of the Midland Pullman is simply stunning with the coach ceiling lights and table lamps, it does look a bit weird as it will forever be travelling ECS on my layout! Can anyone suggest the best way to recreate a scene like this.... I'm sure somebody must do passengers (newspapers optional!) at a cost effective price. Any suggestions please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hi Mr H.do a search on flea bay, plenty on there.I have picked some up at exhibitions quite cheaply, I think the supplier was Black Cat electronics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As much as the model of the Midland Pullman is simply stunning with the coach ceiling lights and table lamps, it does look a bit weird as it will forever be travelling ECS on my layout! Can anyone suggest the best way to recreate a scene like this.... I'm sure somebody must do passengers (newspapers optional!) at a cost effective price. Any suggestions please ? I dont think ive seen any shots yet of peoples attempts to detail these (apart from the ones painted grey) I would have thought we would have seen some with figures added, blinds down on some windows in coaches, drivers scissor blinds in cab, underframe weathering etc. Or is everyone afraid to mess with their expensive models? I think figures in coaches do make a difference, here are some 4mm ones on John Holden's Lime street layout, these where unpainted plastic ones which he painted,hes doesnt recall what make the are, he even painted sausage and egg on the plates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I dont think ive seen any shots yet of peoples attempts to detail these (apart from the ones painted grey) I would have thought we would have seen some with figures added, blinds down on some windows in coaches, drivers scissor blinds in cab, underframe weathering etc. Or is everyone afraid to mess with their expensive models? I think figures in coaches do make a difference, here are some 4mm ones on John Holden's Lime street layout, these where unpainted plastic ones which he painted,hes doesnt recall what make the are, he even painted sausage and egg on the plates. IMGP7699.jpg IMGP7708.jpg IMGP7709.jpg Having people etc. in coaches and multiple units do greatly add to the realism, as the above pictures show. The main problem for me and why I leave mine empty is that they spend time in the sidings on my layout and the people then look silly! The odd one overlooked by whoever checked the train was clear would be OK but not a commuter train loading. How long until we get holographic figures that can move around the layout . . . ?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Having people etc. in coaches and multiple units do greatly add to the realism, as the above pictures show. The main problem for me and why I leave mine empty is that they spend time in the sidings on my layout and the people then look silly! The odd one overlooked by whoever checked the train was clear would be OK but not a commuter train loading. How long until we get holographic figures that can move around the layout . . . ?! Got one 3 coach set with passengers which adds to appearance but as you say doesn't look so realistic when not moving (unless it's the sort of commuter train I used to travel to work on....) Think Sony are working on holographic projectors, target date about 2018, perhaps that sort of technology will one day filter down to model railways (holgraphic smoke for steam locos would be good). One day, perhaps sooner than we think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyb_imp Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Looks great in grey & blue Have any been preserved, wont fit in my era but could have one that is preserved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted January 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2014 No but you can always model the one that did not get away. Why in this thread and others do we have so many people wringing their hands in disappointment because they feel that they can't run a particular model they like on their layout until they get some historical proof that the prototype ran on that little bit of Britain that is modelled so faithfully in all other respects on their model. PS This is not directed at you in particular billu_imp, but at all such questions about Blue Pullman, Cock of the North, Garretts, Deltics, Class 20 etc etc etc. Edit to correct unintentional error in PS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 No but you can always model the one that did not get away. Why in this thread and others do we have so many people wringing their hands in disappointment because they feel that they can't run a particular model they like on their layout until they get some historical proof that the prototype ran on that little bit of Britain that is modelled so faithfully in all other respects on their model. PS This is cted at you in particular billu_imp, but at all such questions about Blue Pullman, Cock of the North, Garretts, Deltics, Class 20 etc etc etc. Did you miss a word out in your PS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyb_imp Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 No but you can always model the one that did not get away. Why in this thread and others do we have so many people wringing their hands in disappointment because they feel that they can't run a particular model they like on their layout until they get some historical proof that the prototype ran on that little bit of Britain that is modelled so faithfully in all other respects on their model. PS This is not directed at you in particular billu_imp, but at all such questions about Blue Pullman, Cock of the North, Garretts, Deltics, Class 20 etc etc etc. Edit to correct unintentional error in PS Colin I see where you're coming from with your query, however I was really wanting to know if any have been preserved, I maybe shouldn't have added anything after that. I actually see it as if "I want to preserve something" within my layout, I can run anything I want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted January 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2014 ^^ Not one Blue Pullman vehicle survived to be preserved. I believe the only surviving parts off a BP coach were a number of seats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted January 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2014 Colin I see where you're coming from with your query, however I was really wanting to know if any have been preserved, I maybe shouldn't have added anything after that. I actually see it as if "I want to preserve something" within my layout, I can run anything I want No problems. I think you should model the "preserved" one. Why not? Its your layout. Enjoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2014 There's a guy on ebay selling Chinese parts (of all kinds), you can buy 100 "white" unpainted figures for a few £, delivery takes an eon. Make sure when you get them to remember in that photo.. they are all men in suits. And reading the spreadsheets broadsheets at that. No Daily Mirror or the like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 And reading the spreadsheets at that. No Daily Mirror or the like. They were actually 'broadsheet' newspapers, with serious business-type news for businessmen, as found on the Midland Pullman. Spreadsheets is computery stuff (I have to fill 'em in all day at work, unfortunately). The Mirror is (and maybe always was) a 'tabloid', a smaller, less serious sort of newspaper, with pictures, for the average reader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2014 They were actually 'broadsheet' newspapers, with serious business-type news for businessmen, as found on the Midland Pullman. Spreadsheets is computery stuff (I have to fill 'em in all day at work, unfortunately). The Mirror is (and maybe always was) a 'tabloid', a smaller, less serious sort of newspaper, with pictures, for the average reader. Well spotted - I knew what I meant just failed to type it!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2014 While the Mirror was always a populist paper, I think tabloid is a relatively modern format, and in those days there was no immediate size distinction between those papers which used multi-syllabic words, and those that didn't. At least, my father for years bought the (lefty) Daily Herald, which was certainly broadsheet size and was the Mirror's stablemate, and I think eventually morphed into the Sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2014 The Daily Mail was originally a broadsheet too. Now you can get many of the serious (for want of a better word) newspapers in tabloid format. I used to be quite proud of being able to read a broadsheet on the train without disturbing the people sitting around me. There's quite a technique for folding the pages that took me a while to get the hang of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The Daily Mail was originally a broadsheet too. Now you can get many of the serious (for want of a better word) newspapers in tabloid format. I used to be quite proud of being able to read a broadsheet on the train without disturbing the people sitting around me. There's quite a technique for folding the pages that took me a while to get the hang of. Apparently that's one of the reasons The Guardian chose the "Berliner" format - very tall pages but relatively thin - to retain the link with the heritage of broadsheets but to make it easier for people to read on the train. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Never seen on the South Devon banks but it looks nice to me. Brent-Blue4.jpg Photo courtesy of member Trains&armour. Maybe not quite in that livery but they did make it all the way down to Plymouth (albeit with a Western to pilot it over the banks). http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/8534295303/in/set-72157603648710190 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Just been in F&S Models in Audenshaw Manchester and they still have a blue front Blue Pullman in stock, @ £325 if you do not fancy the repaint of yellow front Mike Wiltshire Website here http://www.fandsscalemodels.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Apparently that's one of the reasons The Guardian chose the "Berliner" format - very tall pages but relatively thin - to retain the link with the heritage of broadsheets but to make it easier for people to read on the train. Paul I read the Berlin newspaper Der Tagesspiegel on the way to work in the U-Bahn (Underground) and I agree, its format makes for easy neighbourly folding and reading. Generally, though, when I go back to the UK, I am saddened by the way most British papers (I hesitate to call most of them newspapers) have gone downhill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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