BOARD OF TRADE Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Reminiscent of the sixties football chant and very much tongue in cheek all the "action" seems to be taking place in the Bachmann section. Whatever can be going on? Seriously although I think Hornby have dropped a "big one" with City of Truro I do hope(and expect)them to come fighting back if not this Xmas then certainly in the not too distant future. Anyone any ideas of how they can/should best respond? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I might as well say it before anyone else does. Blue Pullman. I'll get me coat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Reminiscent of the sixties football chant and very much tongue in cheek all the "action" seems to be taking place in the Bachmann section. Whatever can be going on? Seriously although I think Hornby have dropped a "big one" with City of Truro I do hope(and expect)them to come fighting back if not this Xmas then certainly in the not too distant future. Anyone any ideas of how they can/should best respond? A week is a long time in model railways, and very soon people will be frothing about something completely different. Not really sure why you see this in such adversarial terms though - Bachmann do what they do, and Hornby do what they do, and whatever they announce later this month will surely be pretty much settled by now. In fact, I'm not at all sure why you've started this thread when the existing 'Idle Speculation and the Hornby Announcement' would have served perfectly well :icon_what: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOARD OF TRADE Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Fair comment,sorry I missed that one. It was however as stated tongue in cheek and not intended to be in any way adversarial but I do think that Hornby have seriously misjudged this one and very much hope that they will respond with a coup of their own in the not too distant future. As I've previously stated(elsewhere)I'm a very big fan of Hornby and continue to be so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 All will be revealed in three weeks, gentlemen... My Butler, Mr Henderson will answer any questions you have, now I must depart... D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 All will be revealed in three weeks, gentlemen... My Butler, Mr Henderson will answer any questions you have, now I must depart... D. ISTR MaxStafford had his stirring spoon out this time last year too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think its a case of Bachmann played their cards VERY close to their chests and did a superb job of keeping the project secret right up to release date. I hope Hornby haven't been caught out and spent a shedload on developing the same thing just to be pipped by a few weeks? Though with the NRM involved, I suppose Hornby may have been approached. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 . It was however as stated tongue in cheek and not intended to be in any way adversarial but I do think that Hornby have seriously misjudged this one and very much hope that they will respond with a coup of their own in the not too distant future. Still a bit lost, I'm afraid. Bachmann have a well-known existing tie-in with the NRM that began with the prototype Deltic, and has always embodied the strong possibility of further models from the National Collection. Informed opinion suggests that 'Truro' has always been the strongest of those candidates, and now it's here. I'm not at all sure what it is that Hornby have misjudged - presumably they never had the chance to produce it in the way that Bachmann have, so they just concentrated on their other business? I hope Hornby haven't been caught out and spent a shedload on developing the same thing just to be pipped by a few weeks? Though with the NRM involved, I suppose Hornby may have been approached. The NRM might well speak for themselves, but I cant really see them playing manufacturers off against each other like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 6, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2009 I'm assuming that people have put two and two together and got five, putting the mention of the Truro announcement in MR together with the impending Hornby announcement. All will be revealed at the end of the month from Hornby, take the Bachmann/NRM announcement out of that equation completely. Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I would have thought, given that this has always been an exclusive thing between the NRM and Bachmann (in terms of making a new model specifically to be sold in the NRM) as opposed the Hornby releases which use existing tooling, there was very little chance of Hornby and Bachmann clashing in the same way as the Scot VS Scot debacle a few years back. Three weeks to the announcement of the 2010 range - it could be anything in there. Mr Stafford, Mr Henderson and Mr Butler - Mr Gresley would like to introduce you to the main event of 2010... P2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 The NRM might well speak for themselves, but I cant really see them playing manufacturers off against each other like that Indeed, esepcially as both said manufacturers provide support for the NRM through existing NRM Collection models. I suspect that both Hornby and Bachamnn are fully aware which prototypes the NRM would like to commision models of in the mid to long term, and for whatever reason Bachmann were chosen to deliver these. Hornby may or may not be working on a similar model for the NRM, but it won't conflict with anything Bachamnn are doing. the HRM would be extremely foolish to commision two seperate models of the same prototype - doubling their financial risk and canabilising their own market into the bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 6, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2009 Reminiscent of the sixties football chant and very much tongue in cheek all the "action" seems to be taking place in the Bachmann section. Whatever can be going on? Seriously although I think Hornby have dropped a "big one" with City of Truro I do hope(and expect)them to come fighting back if not this Xmas then certainly in the not too distant future. Anyone any ideas of how they can/should best respond? Is it me but I'm not sure what you're on about :icon_confused: The NRM have announced 'City of Truro' - long rumoured, almost as long expected and something a Bachmann rep told me about months ago. The release is nicely timed for Christmas either by judgement or luck. In the meanwhile Hornby's 2010 programe will not become public until 25 December or thereabouts and as much as we might guess what it contains the truth is that none of us ordinary mortals have the faintest idea what is in it although many have their own private wish list. So I see nothing at all to froth about in respect of 'Truro' in relation to Hornby. And all being well in a few weeks time we shall be overjoyed by the wonders of Hornby's 'Castle' - where it would seem they have stolen a march on Bachmann by getting the 'Steam' Museum at Swindon to have an exclusive edition, or even by producing a 'Castle' in the first place Now take this imaginary 'whose stolen a march on who' a little further and wait for the Christmas holiday published edition of 'Model Rail' - which is going to get the larger headlines and the most column inches, Hornby's 2010 programme, or the NRM 'City of Truro' in a 'warts an' all' review? And as Hornby's 2010 programme was fixed about 4 months ago I hardly expect them to now be rushing round the country with tape measures and scanning gear looking to outdo the NRM model 15 months after it appears. Just count your lucky stars that we currently have two large manufacturers - and a couple of smaller ones - pumping new, generally high quality, models into the market in a manner we couldn't even have dreamt of 40 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoovered Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Is it me but I'm not sure what you're on about The NRM have announced 'City of Truro' - long rumoured, almost as long expected and something a Bachmann rep told me about months ago. The release is nicely timed for Christmas either by judgement or luck. In the meanwhile Hornby's 2010 programe will not become public until 25 December or thereabouts and as much as we might guess what it contains the truth is that none of us ordinary mortals have the faintest idea what is in it although many have their own private wish list. So I see nothing at all to froth about in respect of 'Truro' in relation to Hornby. And all being well in a few weeks time we shall be overjoyed by the wonders of Hornby's 'Castle' - where it would seem they have stolen a march on Bachmann by getting the 'Steam' Museum at Swindon to have an exclusive edition, or even by producing a 'Castle' in the first place Now take this imaginary 'whose stolen a march on who' a little further and wait for the Christmas holiday published edition of 'Model Rail' - which is going to get the larger headlines and the most column inches, Hornby's 2010 programme, or the NRM 'City of Truro' in a 'warts an' all' review? And as Hornby's 2010 programme was fixed about 4 months ago I hardly expect them to now be rushing round the country with tape measures and scanning gear looking to outdo the NRM model 15 months after it appears. Just count your lucky stars that we currently have two large manufacturers - and a couple of smaller ones - pumping new, generally high quality, models into the market in a manner we couldn't even have dreamt of 40 years ago. And as both ranges are produced at the same factory ?, Bachmann already know what Hornby are doing !. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 And as both ranges are produced at the same factory ?, Bachmann already know what Hornby are doing !. Ah right. So a subcontractor in the Far East would carry out espionage for one of its customers, and thereby risk losing the other one... What a particularly silly thread this is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Idle speculation is OK, trying to intimate there are hostilities is just daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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