Dave F's own black and white photos, 1960s completed 30th December

[Bulleidnutter]

David. The last photo is not a 75xxx. Looks more like a flying pig.

[DaveF]

David. The last photo is not a 75xxx. Looks more like a flying pig.

Thanks,

 

I've no idea why I typed 75015, that refers to another image taken at Skipton  I must learn to concentrate when I write captions!.

 

David

[DaveF]

A bumper set tonight, all still at York with the Elizabethan Railtour 22nd October 1966.    The people and where they are standing will repay careful study.  Things were a lot more relaxed then.

 

We will go to see something else tomorrow.

 

York Merchant Navy 35026 Lamport and Holt Line The Elizabethan Railtour 22nd October 1966

 

 

York 35026 Lamport and Holt Line Flying Scotsman and spotters 22nd October 1966

 

 

York 35026 Lamport and Holt Line up Elizabethan railtour 22nd October 1966

 

 

York trainspotters 22nd October 1966

 

 

York Flying Scotsman up Elizabethan Railtour 22nd October 1966

 

 

York 4472 Flying Scotsman up Elizabethan railtour 22nd October 1966

 

 

York 35026 Lamport and Holt Line 22d October 1966

 

 

 35026 Lamport and Holt Line 22nd October 1966

 

 

York 4472 Flying Scotsman 22nd October 1966

 

 

David

Edited November 15, 2013 by DaveF

[pH]

Incidental detail - there's a lovely pair of winklepickers in there!

[fender]

fantastic set of photos tonight. very nice.

[DaveF]

4 places tonight for your delectation.

 

Rigton level crossingClass 110 Manchester Exchange to Harrogate December 1966

Note the allotment

 

York Class 5 45363 light engine 22nd October 1966

 

 

Newton Kyme I think Class 40 demolition train September 1966

I am reasonably certain of the location unless anyone knows different.  For some reason I had only written the approximate date on the back of the print and nothing else.

 

 

Skipton shed Class 5 tender February 1967

Some more at Skipton tomorrow all being well.

 

David

[DaveF]

This evening's photos are all at Skipton loco shed.

 

I seem to remember that it was a typical January day in Yorkshire - dull and bitterly cold.

 

Skipton shed LMS Class 5s 44887 and 45219 January 1967

 

 

Skipton shed LMS Class 5 45219 January 1967

 

 

Skipton shed 9F 92212 and BR Class 4 January 1967

 

 

Skipton shed left to right 9F, 9F, BR Class 4 January 1967

 

Edit:

Note

The dates under the images are correct.  If you enlarge the image you get the file name, on that the date is incorrect as I got the years and months mixed up this evening . Must be old age.

 

David

Edited November 17, 2013 by DaveF

[JeffP]

Lovely, look at the grot on that 9f valvegear...how do you replicate that in 7mm, let alone 4mm?

[DaveF]

Having spent part of today at the RVI in Newcastle finding out what is wrong with one eye I now know it may get better, or stay the same, or just perhaps get worse and there is no apparent reason for the problem as I don't have the normal risk factors.  I have to go back in two months to see if anything has changed.

 

To change the subject.

 

Diesels and electrics this evening on the ECML and WCML.

 

Pilmoor Class 37 D6785 up freight February 1967

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1577 down vans February 1967

 

 

Hillmorton Northampton line Class 86 down parcels and milk tanks March 1967

 

 

Hillmorton Northampton line Class 310 set 061 up pass to Euston March 67

 

David

Edited November 18, 2013 by DaveF

[Clive Mortimore]

Can't be doing with this "Modern Image" stuff

 

But cor blimey the train behind the Type 3 looks interesting, I thought was only modellers who mixed that many types of wagon.

 

As for the Brush 4 that’s more like it all those Vanwides in the same train, must be something special.

 

As for the AL6 what a mixture of stock, just lovely. There is no traces of lining on the GUV or the Thompson 6 wheeler, are they blue because if not it was rare for both types to in plain maroon? The SR BY could well be green or blue, or the more than likely the normal dirt "livery" found on SR parcels stock. What I really like about this photo is how David has framed the train within an overlap of the OLE. It is not often you see a photo showing all the mast of an overlap as David has captured on film.

 

The EMU (AM10) is nicely framed by the two mast with reduced system height arms. This is so the catenary wire is low enough to go under the bridge David was standing on when he took the photo.

[DaveF]

Can't be doing with this "Modern Image" stuff

 

But cor blimey the train behind the Type 3 looks interesting, I thought was only modellers who mixed that many types of wagon.

 

As for the Brush 4 that’s more like it all those Vanwides in the same train, must be something special.

 

As for the AL6 what a mixture of stock, just lovely. There is no traces of lining on the GUV or the Thompson 6 wheeler, are they blue because if not it was rare for both types to in plain maroon? The SR BY could well be green or blue, or the more than likely the normal dirt "livery" found on SR parcels stock. What I really like about this photo is how David has framed the train within an overlap of the OLE. It is not often you see a photo showing all the mast of an overlap as David has captured on film.

 

The EMU (AM10) is nicely framed by the two mast with reduced system height arms. This is so the catenary wire is low enough to go under the bridge David was standing on when he took the photo.

 

Does this colour version (one of Dad's) help with the parcels train?

 

Hillmorton Northampton line Class 86 down milk and parcels March 67 J827

 

 

By the way, I don't have colour versions for all the photos I took - Dad and I didn't too often end up photographing exactly the same things!

 

David

[hmrspaul]

The van train in 66 is interesting, All Vanwides, with the possible exception of the final two vans (before the brake van) as they look like they have framed sides - as the Izal and Glass Palvans. I wonder if this is heading to/from the Izal factory near Sheffield, or Rowntrees chocolate at York?

 

Paul

[DaveF]

The van train in 66 is interesting, All Vanwides, with the possible exception of the final two vans (before the brake van) as they look like they have framed sides - as the Izal and Glass Palvans. I wonder if this is heading to/from the Izal factory near Sheffield, or Rowntrees chocolate at York?

 

Paul

 

It would be from Sheffield or York as Pilmoor is on the ECML north of York.

 

I've found a colour one of the same train, again taken by Dad.

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1577 down freight Feb 67 J768

 

 

David

Edited November 18, 2013 by DaveF

[Clive Mortimore]

Does this colour version (one of Dad's) help with the parcels train?

 

b_Kilsby_and_Crick Class 86 down milk and parcels March 67_J827.jpg

Hillmorton Northampton line Class 86 down milk and parcels March 67 J827

 

 

By the way, I don't have colour versions for all the photos I took - Dad and I didn't too often end up photographing exactly the same things!

 

David

Hi David

 

Thanks for the colour photo.

 

Yet again my guess of the liveries was wrong, the Thompson 6 wheeler and the GUV are both in maroon with no (visable) lining.

[Fat Controller]

The van train in 66 is interesting, All Vanwides, with the possible exception of the final two vans (before the brake van) as they look like they have framed sides - as the Izal and Glass Palvans. I wonder if this is heading to/from the Izal factory near Sheffield, or Rowntrees chocolate at York?

 

Paul

It could well be York; in the thread devoted to grounded van bodies, there is a shot of a Palvan body branded 'Empty to Foss Island', suggesting that some Palvans were used on Rowntree traffic.

[kevingsydney]

Tonight we have one more from Dunford Bridge and some from Derby.  If you think you've seen them before you haven't - but some were taken when I was out with Dad with both of us taking photos.

 

Dunford Bridge EM1 Class 76 westbound freight 1960 brownie 015.jpg

Dunford Bridge EM1 Class 76 westbound freight 1960 brownie 015

 

 

Derby Crab up freight c1961 brownie 013.jpg

Derby Crab up freight c1961 brownie 013

 

 

Derby Patriot 45544 down freight c1961 brownie 014.jpg

Derby Patriot 45544 down freight c1961 brownie 014.

 

Derby 3F light engine c1961 brownie 016.jpg

Derby 3F light engine c1961 brownie 016

 

 

David

Were these shots taken on the bridge over the Derwent? seem to remember train spotting there in the late 50's, on a Sunday afternoon it was round to the back of the works to our "gate" to see what was happening in the workshops, even made it to the roundhouse 1 day!

 

Kevin

Sydney

[DaveF]

Were these shots taken on the bridge over the Derwent? seem to remember train spotting there in the late 50's, on a Sunday afternoon it was round to the back of the works to our "gate" to see what was happening in the workshops, even made it to the roundhouse 1 day!

 

Kevin

Sydney

Kevin,

 

The Derby photos were all taken from the extreme northern end of the platforms.   I didn't go there very often and I don't remember ever leaving the station when I had a camera with me.

 

There are some more of my and Dad's photos of Derby in one of my flickr sets, they are on the sets page at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/sets/?&page=2

 

You should find the Derby set on the fourth row down.

 

David

[jonny777]

7E16 was the 1315 Tees Yard to Whitemoor.

 

Anything and everything could appear on these trains (and regularly did), as long as they were destined for East Anglia or East London. I used to see them further south over the GN&GE. I think people tend to forget how varied the freight stock was until the dramatic rationalisation of the early 70s.

 

I cannot find 4G18, if indeed that is the headcode, as the third blind on the Brush 4 looks damaged, but the majority of G headcodes on that route were destined for Tyne Yard.

[hmrspaul]

It could well be York; in the thread devoted to grounded van bodies, there is a shot of a Palvan body branded 'Empty to Foss Island', suggesting that some Palvans were used on Rowntree traffic.

That is why I suggested Rowntrees. They appear to have been considered a top class customer, they got masses of Palvans when they were new,  http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvan/e3a96538e Then they had Vanwides http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvanwide/ed6ad0ed In my early spotting days I can remember the return to branding on the removable labels they had on the side.

 

And it is well known a large fleet of air braked vans were allocated to them. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brvda/e21ead03b

 

Paul Bartlett

[DaveF]

A few more photos for today - a bit earlier this evening as I have a photographic society committee meeting at my house after tea.

 

Four green diesels and a blue electric.

 

Chaloners Whin Junction Class 40 D390 up freight March 1967

 

Chaloners Whin Junction Class 47 D1535 down ex pass March 1967

 

 

Ollerton 2 Class 31s eastbound coal March 1967

Taken from the car travelling south on the A614

 

 

Hillmorton Class 83 up ex pass March 1967

 

 

David

 

 

 

 

 

[kevingsydney]

Kevin,

 

The Derby photos were all taken from the extreme northern end of the platforms.   I didn't go there very often and I don't remember ever leaving the station when I had a camera with me.

 

There are some more of my and Dad's photos of Derby in one of my flickr sets, they are on the sets page at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/sets/?&page=2

 

You should find the Derby set on the fourth row down.

 

David

Many thanks David, I will have a long look at these, will no doubt bring back some memories

 

Best regards

 

Kevin

[darren01]

HI Dave

Thanks for putting up the photos you have on here, just love them, must say the photo of the class 40 running under the bridge almost looks like a model to me.

Please keep them coming.

Darren01

[DaveF]

It's nice to be indoors this evening - heavy rain (with some sleet) and thunder and the wind's getting stronger.  I must go and look at the beach after breakfast tomorrow to see what the waves are like.

 

Tonight's selection - electric and steam.

 

Hillmorton Class 81 up ex pass March 1967

 

 

Hillmorton Class 85 down ex pass March 1967

 

 

Leeds City 9F 92167 westbound oil April 1967

 

 

Leeds City 9F 92167 westbound oil April 1967

The same train going away.  The barrier wagons are interesting - and it really is an oil train, I know which photo comes next!.

 

David

[DaveF]

Today's photos are below.

 

Leeds City oil tankers on westbound train hauled by 9F 92167 April 1967

These are the tanks in the train hauled by the 9F in yesterday's images.

 

Normanton WD 90243 from train March 1967

For some reason I didn't make notes on some photos I took at this time, so I hope it is Normanton.

 

Pilmoor A3 4472 Flying Scotsman The Hadrian Flyer Kings X to Newcastle 17th June 1967

This was the King's Cross to Newcastle non stop run.

 

Sowerby Bridge 8F down freight Sept 67

This one took me by surprise, hence the missing front end.

 

Edited to correct my typing errors.

 

David

Edited November 21, 2013 by DaveF

[DaveF]

I've just got back from a very pleasant afternoon at a local exhibition in a nearby church hall, being held today and tomorrow, not Sunday.  Just about 13 layouts and a couple of trade stands - so how did I manage to buy 2 locos, some rolling stock and various bits and pieces?

 

A few more photos for this evening, the first three were taken from the train on a journey from Harrogate to Loughborough.

 

I think the location of the first two is correct, unless anyone knows different.

 

Tibshelf sidings Class 20 D8150 from trainApril 67

 

 

Tibshelf sidings Class 20 D8190 from train April 67

 

 

Clay Cross Grimsby and Immingham tram from train in snow shower April 67

 

 

Leeds City Class 101s April 1967

 

Edited as I seem to have confused the stations in Leeds!

Edited November 22, 2013 by DaveF