Kitmaster Pug

[hayfield]

I won this kit bashed Kitmaster Pug off Ebay, I paid what I thought in the end the correct price as I took a bit of a gamble on it with my bid. The photos of the sides and chassis were not very good, but the end view was too tempting.



The chassis is a home made sheet brass one, with a Keyser Mk 1 or 2 motor. Built to EM gauge, both wheel sets in slots (crude compensation) but works, a motor mount has been made to fit the motor end and axle. The varnish finish has gone a bit white in places, so a bit of a repaint may be in order



The motor is a bit tired, I do have a spare so that's an option, also if I want to spend a bit of time then I could carve off the plastic hand rails and smoke box darts and replace them with brass ones. I think the pistons and connecting rods have been removed owing to clearances to the front coupling rod screw

Still quite happy with it and a bit different from the norm, may even paint it blue!!

[JeffP]

My main complaint with the Kitmaster/Airfix/Dapol Pug is the buffers. The real thing had huge wooden dumb buffers. The model has representations of sprung ones.

[Horsetan]

My main complaint with the Kitmaster/Airfix/Dapol Pug is the buffers. The real thing had huge wooden dumb buffers. The model has representations of sprung ones.

 

What's stopping you sawing 'em off and gluing on some plastic blocks in place?

[hayfield]

OK its a bit different but one with buffers, albeit over the wooden buffers

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=caledonian+pug+loco&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JMraUtnMO8ORhQfs0IBI&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=899#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=m8W0A0ml2Qa-ZM%253A%3BItheaaLd3ZgC9M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.davidheyscollection.com%252Fuserimages%252F00000-j-payne-inverness-loco-1957.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.davidheyscollection.com%252Fpage24.htm%3B855%3B526

 

Better view  https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=caledonian+pug+loco&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JMraUtnMO8ORhQfs0IBI&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=899#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=nLRsbMiwjH21FM%253A%3BMkCh38T8JH5yHM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ftravelandmixpix.smugmug.com%252FRail%252FPrinces-Pier-Line%252FPrinces-Pier-Line-Old-Images%252Fi-Qb5nThh%252F1%252FO%252FDrummond%2525200-4-0ST%252520Pug_CR_LMS%252520no_BR%252520no%25252056031_Albert%252520Harbour.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk%252FForums%252Fviewtopic.php%253Ff%253D16%2526t%253D41301%3B786%3B479

[PGC]

Bit of a miss, John. The Kitmaster Pug is the L&Y version, the one you've shown in the photos is the Caledonian Railway version, and is no where near the same.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%26YR_Class_21

 

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2224499

[Joseph_Pestell]

Bit of a miss, John. The Kitmaster Pug is the L&Y version, the one you've shown in the photos is the Caledonian Railway version, and is no where near the same.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%26YR_Class_21

 

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2224499

 

Irony?

 

Certainly not a "miss" as he knows it is "kit-bashed" and is thinking of painting it blue.

 

I don't know my Caley locos well enough to say how accurate it is but it looks like a reasonable effort. Nice enough and not a model one sees often.

 

PS: Having gone through all the photos, I guess the shape of the saddle tank is rather different and the Caley has less cab side cut out that the Lanky. I still think it's a nice little kitbash which others could do given the low cost of an Airfix/Dapol kit. The cabside would be easily changed but the tank (quite a complex shape on the Caley) is another matter.

[hayfield]

Thanks both of you for your comments, I don't have any idea if either the Caley or L&Y pugs are related or just share the same name. As I said it is a kit bashed Kitmaster/Airfix loco kit on a scratch built EM chassis and as can be seen is in CR black livery. From what I can see its not an exact copy, but the conversion is very well done except for the cylinders

 

I think I have seen CR pugs in photos with dum buffers and L&Y ones with sprung buffers. It cost me £31 plus postage so I think that's about the correct price for a second hand loco like this. As I said I took a punt as the photos were not very good and the description very vague.

 

When bidding on hunches you have to expect the odd hiccup, thankfully I think I have come out about even. However to date I am so much in pocket with others the odd loss will still keep me well ahead.

 

On the other hand it might tempt the odd person to go out by a kit and try and have a go at their own conversion 

[Arthur]

Here's my motorised Airfix pug;

 

 

It's 00 and I used thin frames, spaced as wide as I could, so that an ECM type 1 motor could sit low down and forward, leaving the cab interior clear.

 

There's no link with the Caley pugs, other than both being short wheelbase 0-4-0STs and I believe that they both received the nickname 'pug' after the small, tough, dog of the same name. I've never seen photos of the L&Y pugs with anything other than dumb buffers but I cannot say that none were fitted with conventional sprung buffers.