Traeth Mawr -Painting Season, (mostly)

[Edwardian]

1 hour ago, ChrisN said:

 

Apart from the elephant on the beach, 

 

And I thought that was going to be a euphemism....

[MikeOxon]

9 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Some people will moan at everything. What's wrong with a bit of head swopping now.

Oh dear, the Danes are back at their old tricks and now trying to persuade us that their behaviour during their attempted invasions was perfectly normal!  I thought good old King Alfred had sorted them out!

 

Photos can be very cruel, Chris.  I frequently find that I photograph engines with previously unnoticed wonky chimneys but, on the other hand, it's a good way of fault-finding and correcting such things.

[Northroader]

Weren’t GPO bikes painted red?

[ChrisN]

50 minutes ago, Northroader said:

Weren’t GPO bikes painted red?

 

Thank you.  Pillar box red?

[ChrisN]

17 hours ago, MikeOxon said:

Oh dear, the Danes are back at their old tricks and now trying to persuade us that their behaviour during their attempted invasions was perfectly normal!  I thought good old King Alfred had sorted them out!

 

Photos can be very cruel, Chris.  I frequently find that I photograph engines with previously unnoticed wonky chimneys but, on the other hand, it's a good way of fault-finding and correcting such things.

 

Of course by 'Danes' you mean Vikings?  🙂 As most of my recent ancestors came from the region of Danelaw I have to be careful.  

 

Yes, close up photos are cruel, but I think I can rectify the issues.  If not the final images of the station will be at the usual viewing distance.

Edited November 15, 2024 by ChrisN

[ChrisN]

5 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Anthony Leslie Dawson has had a series of posts on his Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/OnHistoricalLines

about how 19th century railway uniforms were shoddy, ill-fitting, and uncomfortable. 

 

Stephen,

Thank you.  I read somewhere recently, that the GWR porters were not happy with their new green uniforms, as the dye was not very well fixed, and everything became green.  I would assume that by the time they had faded enough it was time to get a new one.

[Dana Ashdown]

On 14/11/2024 at 05:45, ChrisN said:

It will all be over by Christmas!

You've got me worried!

 

Given the current COP24 deliberations and rising temperatures, floods and so on, do you mean the World? Or just the station.😉

 

[ChrisN]

5 hours ago, Dana Ashdown said:

You've got me worried!

 

Given the current COP24 deliberations and rising temperatures, floods and so on, do you mean the World? Or just the station.😉

 

 

Just the station, (and the war.  WW1 that is.)

[Donw]

On 16/11/2024 at 15:16, Dana Ashdown said:

You've got me worried!

 

Given the current COP24 deliberations and rising temperatures, floods and so on, do you mean the World? Or just the station.😉

 

 

Well Welby always seemed like the antichrist to me and Biden seems to given a green light to Ukraine  so perhaps the events in Revelations are due. The World will still be here but I am none to sure about us. Keep calm and carry on modelling I think.

 

You really have a knack of creating figures that seem appropriate for the time and there roles. Superb stuff Chris.

 

Don 

[ChrisN]

Bits and pieces really.  I am at present wrestling with pram canopies, but more of that another time, as they are winning at the moment.

 

You may remember that Sir Jon and his family are making a trip to see the Young Englishman who lives up the Naf Valley past the village of Pen-y-Cilan in his house Ty Mawr.  He has brought with him the three children that he has in 1895.

 

 

Here you can see the Nanny with the back view of Lady Rayne's Lady's Maid, and the three children.  The eldest child is standing looking out of the window.  I had not realised that she should be 6 or 7 so is a little short.

 

 

Another view of the Nanny.  She is wearing navy, (Humbrol 77), to distinguish her from the other servants.  She is holding Sir Jon's son and heir.

 

 

Here is the Lady's Maid in her Forest Green coat, (Humbrol 150), and hat, with her Desert Yellow, (Humbrol 93) scarf.  So there we have it, Sir Jon and.......  What's that?  You can only see two children?  Umm, cough cough, er, yes.  They have lost Sir Jon;s second daughter.  I did warn them, but she appears to have toddled off somewhere.  Never mind, I will find a replacement.  I am sure Sir Jon will never notice.

 

Sir Jon and Lady Rayne are still being painted but will be along shortly.

 

 

Here in the Stroudley Brake are Sir Jon's two maids.  I am not sure why he needs two maids of his own as the Young Englishman has a full complement of his own staff.  He did persuade Sir Jon, not to bring his butler as Henderson, his own butler would be deeply offended.  They of course are attired in the same way as the Lady's Maid.

 

Please notice the footboard.  The brown is Humbrol 110 Natural Wood.  This is the colour I have always associated with aging dirty wood.

 

 

These are the siphons.  I took @Dana Ashdown's advice and used Humbrol 93 Desert Yellow, hence the scarves, and they seemed quite pale.  I am always surprised at the colour 'Oak' which is a pale yellow, although I am not sure why as pine is almost white and a lot of wood is pale.  I think wood goes to 'Natural Wood' colour with age and dirt.  So the footboards were then washed in dilute black and I think are not too bad.

 

Yes they need their roofs painting grey, and when that happens, Sir Jon will get his new suit.  (Have to be careful with the size of the brush.)

 

If you have been, thanks for looking.

 

 

[Mikkel]

Hi Chris. I like those views of the interior. Nice touch with the different seat colours and the arm rests and more spacious look of the First class compartments.

 

Well, I assume they are different classes. Or are we just seeing the difference between the GWR and more inferior companies? 🙂

 

I was reminded of these illustrations (I don't know who the illustrators were). The second one is a bit dark in a subtle kind of way!

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Mikkel

[ChrisN]

6 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Hi Chris. I like those views of the interior. Nice touch with the different seat colours and the arm rests and more spacious look of the First class compartments.

 

Well, I assume they are different classes. Or are we just seeing the difference between the GWR and more inferior companies? 🙂

 

I was reminded of these illustrations (I don't know who the illustrators were). The second one is a bit dark in a subtle kind of way!

 

 

 

 

Yes, you do not know if she  is trying to pull the young girl in, or push her out.

 

Interesting that in the first picture the lady's dress appears to be 1880s fashion, but the girl is wearing a boater, again earlier than I would have expected before your post about boaters.

 

Yes, there are different types of class.  The red seats are LB&SCR third class while the blue is first class.  The first class saloon only needs Sir Jon and Lady Rayne to be finished, while the third class only needs a bit more weight.  I must be breaking some unwritten rule of railway modelling, or of my own to actually finish something, figures excluded.

[Dana Ashdown]

1 hour ago, ChrisN said:

I must be breaking some unwritten rule of railway modelling, or of my own to actually finish something, figures excluded.

Perhaps, we should all take a sacred vow to finish at least one thing a year.

 

That would be easier than swearing not to start anything new before we finish all the other stuff first!😉

[ChrisN]

On 07/12/2024 at 15:51, Dana Ashdown said:

Perhaps, we should all take a sacred vow to finish at least one thing a year.

 

That would be easier than swearing not to start anything new before we finish all the other stuff first!😉

 

Dana,

Hmm, yes.  I have finished some figures this year, and the pram!  I think the only thing that I have, officially, started is Mr Price's house and two more prams.  The station building is all but done.  (I will show pictures next time).  The last thing it needs is some down pipes which I have prepared and put away somewhere safe......................

Edited December 14, 2024 by ChrisN

[phil_sutters]

On 15/10/2024 at 21:57, ChrisN said:

 

 

So the pram.

 

 

I say it is finished but I did wonder whether to draw very thin white lines on the spokes of the wheels to make them look thin, but I have not done that, and of course no pictures from the sides for comments.  (Hmm.)  So, the pram body is navy and the wheels are black.  Can you see the baby?  No?  Try this view.

 

 

Do you have any spare etches of hand wheels? I used those for the wheels on the pram and the tricycle in the front garden of 5 Newtown Road, which faces across to Highbridge Wharf. I grant you my pram is probably a rather working class model with small wheels.

 

 

One the subject of boaters, my grandmother Elsie appears at the left in this picture of her and her mother and brothers and a sister, taken in 1901. Their family was in the height of fashion, being high class tailors in Hereford. So boaters were definitely in fashion in 1901.

Edited December 7, 2024 by phil_sutters

[ChrisN]

4 minutes ago, phil_sutters said:

Do you have any spare etches of hand wheels? I used those for the wheels on the pram and the tricycle in the front garden of 5 Newtown Road, which faces across to Highbridge Wharf.

One the subject of boaters, my grandmother Elsie appears in this picture of her and her mother and brothers and a sister, taken in 1901. Their family were in the height of fashion, being the high class tailors in Hereford. So boaters were definitely in fashion in 1901.

 

Phil,

Those buildings are superb!  I am afraid that I do not have any hand wheel etches.  I know the wheels I am using are a bit heavy but I can live with that.

 

Lovely picture.  I have always thought that boaters were an Edwardian fashion, but @Mikkel posted a link to a site that gave their history and they started to be worn much earlier.  This I am relieved about as when Shapeways was functioning I bought a packet of boaters, so in fact they will not be too out of place in 1895.  (Much easier than trying to make your own hats.)

[Isambard Kingdom Brunel]

13 minutes ago, phil_sutters said:

Do you have any spare etches of hand wheels? I used those for the wheels on the pram and the tricycle in the front garden of 5 Newtown Road, which faces across to Highbridge Wharf. I grant you my pram is probably a rather working class model with small wheels.

 

 

One the subject of boaters, my grandmother Elsie appears at the left in this picture of her and her mother and brothers and a sister, taken in 1901. Their family was in the height of fashion, being high class tailors in Hereford. So boaters were definitely in fashion in 1901.

We used to wear Boaters at King Edward VI Grammar School in Stratford upon Avon during Summer Term

[phil_sutters]

10 minutes ago, Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:

We used to wear Boaters at King Edward VI Grammar School in Stratford upon Avon during Summer Term

They have been around for a long time and in use in certain parts of the population until the mid 20th century. I seem to remember seeing photos of Cambridge students punting in them fairly recently. As a more general piece of head gear, I would place them in the Edwardian period. Even in this photo from 1911.the ladies seem to have moved on from them, but the gents are still wearing them.

On the subject of prams - I challenge someone to produce a nice little etch for this one.

Edited December 7, 2024 by phil_sutters

[Compound2632]

3 hours ago, phil_sutters said:

They have been around for a long time and in use in certain parts of the population until the mid 20th century. I seem to remember seeing photos of Cambridge students punting in them fairly recently.

 

I bought a boater from Shepherd & Woodward in 1983, as a deliberate affectation, for wearing whilst punting*. It was a rather stiff hat to wear, lacking flexibility in the crown.

 

*From the correct end. It is a feature of Cambridge punts that they have two incorrect ends.

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Compound2632

[ChrisN]

2 hours ago, phil_sutters said:

They have been around for a long time and in use in certain parts of the population until the mid 20th century. I seem to remember seeing photos of Cambridge students punting in them fairly recently. As a more general piece of head gear, I would place them in the Edwardian period. Even in this photo from 1911.the ladies seem to have moved on from them, but the gents are still wearing them.

On the subject of prams - I challenge someone to produce a nice little etch for this one.

 

Phil, 

That is a lovely pram.  An etch would make a nicer model than one from cardboard.

[brumtb]

15 hours ago, Isambard Kingdom Brunel said:

We used to wear Boaters at King Edward VI Grammar School in Stratford upon Avon during Summer Term

Yes, I was there too, for some reason I remember boaters often ended up in the river!

Tony

[phil_sutters]

On 07/12/2024 at 17:18, phil_sutters said:

 

One the subject of boaters, my grandmother Elsie appears at the left in this picture of her and her mother and brothers and a sister, taken in 1901. Their family was in the height of fashion, being high class tailors in Hereford. So boaters were definitely in fashion in 1901.

Looking at this photo more closely, the boys are actually wearing a version of the Sennet hat, a Royal Navy hot weather uniform hat from 1857 to 1921.

[Compound2632]

7 hours ago, phil_sutters said:

Looking at this photo more closely, the boys are actually wearing a version of the Sennet hat, a Royal Navy hot weather uniform hat from 1857 to 1921.

 

The turned-up brim being the identifying feature? I think they can be seen to have sailor's collars too, though white.

[ChrisN]

 

Here we have Beatrice, on the left, and Bessy, Nannies for Mrs Peters standing outside the all but finished station building, along with four of their charges, Victoria, (11), Elizabeth (9), Grace (5) who is looking at the kiosk, probably wants a comic, and Howard in the pram.  Bertram and Harold are with their mother in Lewis' the clothes shop getting their jackets made and fitted.  (The Nannies are rather amused that the jackets are the same colour as the third class upholstery on Cambrian trains and wonder if they are using the same material.)  

 

 

Looking a little closer, (sorry I had real difficulty focussing this shot), and you will see that they appear to be slightly annoyed, not because their grey uniforms are showing a different colour under the Welsh Christmas sunshine, but that they are waiting for 'The Contractor'.  He was supposed to go round with them and they were to do a Christmas message showing all the new and completed buildings, rolling stock for this year.  Even though this would take hardly any time at all, he has not turned up and the telegram he has sent to tell them he is otherwise engaged appears not to have arrived either, something to do with the Telegraph Boys not having the right colour bikes or something.  It looks as though they may have a long wait.

 

In the meantime:

 

 

Some of the Traeth Mawr worthies are beginning to congregate at the only chapel already constructed, for their annual carol concert, so it only leaves me to say what it says above,

 

Thank you for following this thread this year and a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

 

If you have been, thanks for looking.

Edited December 22, 2024 by ChrisN

[phil_sutters]

Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thanks for sharing your delightful modelling. A thread worth returning to in 2025!