Tinsley Railway maps and diagrams

[18B]

Hi,

 

I'd recently bought a book on D-Day that came in a box with a collection of maps and drawings etc, and I wondered whether anything could be produced Railway wise. The problem I guess however is that the D-Day one would have been mass produced and thus the cost brought down. In a normal A4 book a map is often only re-produced at A5 or possibly landscape A4, and thus I wondered would there would be a "limited" market of people who would pay a separate sum to receive a separate pack in addition to a book that acts a compendium to the book? It would for example include A3 maps or even larger and other material that doesn’t lend itself to being in a book. Wondered if any one had any ideas of what they would like to see in such an addition to a book?

 

I'm thinking specifically about Tinsley and being able to include a large scale map, several A3 area maps and others printed details etc.

[Joseph_Pestell]

In the OPC Chester-Holyhead book, they get round the problem by folding the map of Holyhead on a separate sheet (A2?) glued inside the back cover. Must add a lot to production cost.

 

Perhaps better these days to provide a CD?

[6Y99]

Rail Expressdid it in 2004 with the Tinsley Yard Special that it produced....................... What else can be written about Tinsley????

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi,

 

I'd recently bought a book on D-Day that came in a box with a collection of maps and drawings etc, and I wondered whether anything could be produced Railway wise. The problem I guess however is that the D-Day one would have been mass produced and thus the cost brought down. In a normal A4 book a map is often only re-produced at A5 or possibly landscape A4, and thus I wondered would there would be a "limited" market of people who would pay a separate sum to receive a separate pack in addition to a book that acts a compendium to the book? It would for example include A3 maps or even larger and other material that doesn’t lend itself to being in a book. Wondered if any one had any ideas of what they would like to see in such an addition to a book?

 

I'm thinking specifically about Tinsley and being able to include a large scale map, several A3 area maps and others printed details etc.

 

Hi 18B

 

I have a 1/1250 BR drawing of Tinsley, it is 10 ft long,

 

See http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/82146-tinsley-servicing-shed/?p=1345473

[18B]

In the OPC Chester-Holyhead book, they get round the problem by folding the map of Holyhead on a separate sheet (A2?) glued inside the back cover. Must add a lot to production cost.

 

Perhaps better these days to provide a CD?

 

It's the tangible aspect though to having the maps etc that was most interesting, CD's are good and I can imagine a time will come when most books will only be available online so to speak, but the railway book world will possibly be one of the last to do away (if ever) with print.   

[18B]

Rail Expressdid it in 2004 with the Tinsley Yard Special that it produced....................... What else can be written about Tinsley????

 

And an excellent article it was too, but if books were only every written about things that hadn't ever had articles in magazines, we'd be onto to some pretty obscure titles by now.  

[penyghent]

Rail Expressdid it in 2004 with the Tinsley Yard Special that it produced....................... What else can be written about Tinsley????

Well to be honest, quite a bit! Although Michael Rhodes did a fine job of covering the yard in RE, and in his Marshalling Yard book, there is much more information to be found about the yard.

 

Pre construction for instance, do you know about the railway that was already there and why the yard was built where it was?

Do you know about the coal in the area, and what BR had to do to prevent susidence?

Do you know how the yard was designed, who did the construction work, how much it cost and how long it took?

Do you know about the type of buildings and signalboxesin the yard

What about the costs involved with the Dowty Retarders?

What about yard communications, and the Addo data transmission system/

 

I could go on but you get the point, you can only write so much in a magazine article before the editor says there are enough words, the same is not said about a book.

[Guest bri.s]

Well to be honest, quite a bit! Although Michael Rhodes did a fine job of covering the yard in RE, and in his Marshalling Yard book, there is much more information to be found about the yard.

 

Pre construction for instance, do you know about the railway that was already there and why the yard was built where it was?

Do you know about the coal in the area, and what BR had to do to prevent susidence?

Do you know how the yard was designed, who did the construction work, how much it cost and how long it took?

Do you know about the type of buildings and signalboxesin the yard

What about the costs involved with the Dowty Retarders?

What about yard communications, and the Addo data transmission system/

 

I could go on but you get the point, you can only write so much in a magazine article before the editor says there are enough words, the same is not said about a book.

That to me would make an interesting book .

 

Brian

[penyghent]

That to me would make an interesting book .

 

Brian

Well Brian, the book is underway we have collected a wide range of images for it, including shots of the yard and diesel depot under construction, airial shots of the yard, depot shots, shots from Wood Lane Bridge and Shepcote Lane, all the signalboxes, and some of the other yards in the area. We have maps, plans and diagrams, lists of locos seen on depot on one day of each year of the depots life, drivers anecdotes, train workings and loads of other information.

 

We are hoping to have the book out early next year but there is still a long way to go so watch out for it

[Guest bri.s]

Well Brian, the book is underway we have collected a wide range of images for it, including shots of the yard and diesel depot under construction, airial shots of the yard, depot shots, shots from Wood Lane Bridge and Shepcote Lane, all the signalboxes, and some of the other yards in the area. We have maps, plans and diagrams, lists of locos seen on depot on one day of each year of the depots life, drivers anecdotes, train workings and loads of other information.

 

We are hoping to have the book out early next year but there is still a long way to go so watch out for it

I'll keep a look out for it thanks

 

Brian

[6Y99]

Hummmmmmmmm, The Marshalling Yards book 1st published in 1988 did a good job on covering the major hump yards. Tinsley well yeah I know it was the more or less the last one of the big yards to be opened last one being Scunthorpe West/New Yard and yeah Dr Richard Beaching opened it and the technology used was cutting edge and BR had massive issues stableising the land it was built on that the retarders was some of the most expensive BR purchased. Recently through BFI films that have come out a lot more of Tinsley and the freight it moved has come to light. I am not sure if it will fill a book? Maybe if you combine it with Wath and possibley Barrow Hill then that would fill a book. You would however need to keep it easy on the eye and not heavy going as I can imagine it to be very techincal. I am a railway man of many years expericence and the recent book on MGR Operation I found to be very informative and I found some snippets that I didnt know. However, to a layman I can imagine it to be heavy going.

 

 

 

Just saying