Cornish Triang Paul Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 To anybody who is considering preserving a mark 3 coach and wants the interior to have the correct ambiance in the form of correct seating. FGW are refurbishing its sleeper day coaches from September so if you want the correct IC70 seats for your 1st class coach, NOW is the time to contact them to secure them for your use. I feel that correct style seating is important for any preserved vehicle be it road or rail and adds so much to the presentation. Act now before its too late ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 As good as they are I can't see many coffins being preserved...aside from the HST folk who may want something to stick between their power cars? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think they will end up with open access operators once their time on the GWML and ECML is over, scrapping is some time off. In their hands tables can come back and more ambience can return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) FGW don't own these fixtures and fittings, they are Porterbrook's property, and the refurbishment contractor may stipulate that it actually retains them for other purposes as part of whatever contracts it signs. EDIT: however, in saying that, there are people in each of these parties well aware of the importance and significance of the original interior components, so I doubt they would be averse to their retention, the issue being one of storage space. The 125 Group (I think it is called) counts several career railwaymen in its number. Edited May 3, 2014 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Don't forget that many railway has replaced many of the Mk I sleeping coach with Mk 3 for staff accommodate. Would be great for a steam gala to include sleeping coach. Back on topic Mk 3 hauled need ETH and are only air brakes which would limit the use of them never mind that they are longer than older vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Plenty of MkIII coaches will be around for ages, let no-one be in any doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Don't forget a buffet coach is preserved already. Also seem to recall the NRM/RHC has designated an entire set for preservation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2014 I would really hope that a complete set or more is preserved. They are such important vehicles for recent times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Plenty of MkIII coaches will be around for ages, let no-one be in any doubt about that. Irish Rail are scrapping theirs, plug doors and all - what a waste! XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Irish Rail are scrapping theirs, plug doors and all - what a waste! XF It has been discussed on wnxx, basically the costs of regauging, changing the buffer locations and replacing the ETS made it prohibitive for them to be used elsewhere sadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 The sleepers will end up being used on heritage railways to accommodate volunteers. There is one at Pickering on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Triang Paul Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 Really referring to the fixtures and fittings of the mk3 seating vehicles......... . Now is the time to contact the relevant parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsa69 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 There is also a Mk3 sleeper at the Telford Steam Railway used as a staff accomodation coach. It is ex-Danish State Railways and still in their livery, Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Apart from the sleepers at Shackerstone, Okehampton, Pickering and Telford, are there any other MK3s preserved/grounded anywhere? Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 There are loads of the sleepers around the place. I'm sure there was one at the mid hants and another at Southall. Do the trailers with the prototype HST power car count? And don't the Mid Norfolk railway have a mk3 buffet in service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 At least one sleeper coach parked up on the Bodmin and wenford railway, on accommodation bogies!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted February 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2017 There's one (TS - not sure if it's a HST or loco hauled version) at the West Yorkshire Fire Service's training centre near Leeds: https://goo.gl/maps/TNnv5kkBEbL2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2017 There's a sleeping car at Sheringham which was one of the first preserved and that is sitting on commonwealth's Isn't there a test coach preserved somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Do the trailers with the prototype HST power car count? And don't the Mid Norfolk railway have a mk3 buffet in service? The 3x that support 41001 are all hauled stock Mk3s (TF, TSO, RFM?) - and yes I think the MNR have another RFM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 There is a Mk3a RFM at Midsomer Norton. IMG_2743 by Paul James, on Flickr Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Given the future plentiful supply of time expired MkIIIs, how long before someone cuts one down as a retrospective prototype for the early Hornby one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) The sleepers will end up being used on heritage railways to accommodate volunteers. There is one at Pickering on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway What !! So there's no Sheffield Park - East Grinstead sleeper service ?!?! Edited February 10, 2017 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The 3x that support 41001 are all hauled stock Mk3s (TF, TSO, RFM?) - and yes I think the MNR have another RFM. MNR also have another mk3 of TSO spec I think, minus it's interior. It was used at a gala last Back to the original query, anyone wanting to store an interior would need to have huge space available to them. Coach seats are bigger than they look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 There's a sleeping car at Sheringham which was one of the first preserved and that is sitting on commonwealth's Isn't there a test coach preserved somewhere? A lot of the SLE coaches are on Commonwealths because their BT10s were needed for active coaches. Test Car 10 was preserved at Peak Rail but brought back by Network Rail, but Bachmann have another ex-test coach at Barwell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted February 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2017 Mk 3 sleeper regulated to 5'3" used for volunteer accommodation at RPSI site at Whitehead Co. Antrim http://www.steamtrainsireland.com/carriages/sleeper.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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