Bachmann 24 ton ore hopper.

[scouser]

Hello folks, can anybody enlighten me as to how the hopper wagons, modelled by Bachmann as 24 ton ore wagons, were unloaded in the sixties?

I am particularly interested in unloading arrangements when used for the carriage of stone. A trawl of the net has drawn a blank.

Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

Paul

[Fat Controller]

They'd drop the load into a hole under the track; there'd probably be a conveyor there that would then take the stone, either to where it was going to be used, or to a stockpile. In some locations, such as the former coal cells at Mile End, the void under the track might hold a wagon load or two that would be taken away with a front-loader.

[HillsideDepot]

The Bachmann model (very much showing its age) sadly doesn't have a hopper chute below the under-frame, does any one do a suitable add-on part? If it was a single wagon I'd have a go at a representation from plastic sheet, but I very much doubt I'd get 4 or 5 in my intended rake to look the same.

[Fat Controller]

The Bachmann model (very much showing its age) sadly doesn't have a hopper chute below the under-frame, does any one do a suitable add-on part? If it was a single wagon I'd have a go at a representation from plastic sheet, but I very much doubt I'd get 4 or 5 in my intended rake to look the same.

Neither did the prototype:-

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brironorehoppersmall/h4f01e2d6#h4f01e2d6

[HillsideDepot]

Oops! I've not long bought some and must admit had only looked at the model so far, and not the prototype. Thanks for the correction.

[Fat Controller]

This absence of a hopper below the floor seems to be a feature of several types of hopper wagons, possibly being derived from NER/LNER practice on wooden-bodied hoppers; the North-Eastern division of the NCB had what looked like standard 21t hoppers, until you looked under the floor and noticed the absence of unloading chutes:-

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/hawthornwagons/h2db18078#h2db18078

The doors seemed to have been hinged parallel to the solebars, rather than at right-angles to them, as in wagons like the standard 21t hopper.

[rope runner]

If we're finding fault with this wagon, then the centre panel of the hopper is 4mm too wide, increasing the overall length by 4mm!

 

Paul A. 

[Fat Controller]

If we're finding fault with this wagon, then the centre panel of the hopper is 4mm too wide, increasing the overall length by 4mm!

 

Paul A. 

Presumably, these vehicles were 16'6" over headstocks, as opposed to 17'6"? I wonder if anyone's tried shortening the body, and putting it on a Parkside chassis?

[Arthur]

Dave Hall (Ruston) shortened some bodies by chopping 4mm out of the middle and then put them on 9' Bachmann chassis', they do look a great deal better for it. See second photo in this post;

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80881-bsc-river-don-works/?p=1328470

[scouser]

They'd drop the load into a hole under the track; there'd probably be a conveyor there that would then take the stone, either to where it was going to be used, or to a stockpile. In some locations, such as the former coal cells at Mile End, the void under the track might hold a wagon load or two that would be taken away with a front-loader.

Thank you FC, that was exactly what I needed to know. Now I just have to build it!

Paul