A Trio of Parkside Dundas LMS CCTs

[brossard]

A little while ago, while looking for "quick" projects to do, I came across an old Parkside Dundas model of the subject van:

 

 

The lettering seems to be in the right place at first glance (although poorly done and the wrong size) and in accordance with PDs instructions.  However, I found a picture in Essery & Jenkinsons LMS Coaches that shows a van with the lettering on the RHS.  I'm wondering if anyone can confirm the location of the lettering.

 

This van has been torn down and rebuilt with a detailed underframe.  In parallel, I've built a new from the packet CCT kit.

 

Here's the state of van as we speak:

 

 

It is ready for transfers as you can see.

 

Thanks

 

John

Edited September 29, 2019 by brossard

[Marshall5]

I'm no expert on LMS NPCS but the photo to which you refer shows the CCT in B.R. livery with most of the lettering on the right. The model you acquired was in a mixture of LMS & BR lettering eg. the number would not have been prefixed "M" in LMS days and would be a different font and shaded. Do you intend to finish it as LMS or BR? Ray.

[Fat Controller]

Is that an 'M' prefix? To my (admittedly tired) eyes, it looks as though it could be a 'N', possibly meaning something like 'Non-Pool'.

I have seen photos of some NPCCS vans with lettering on the left-hand end; most were sliding-door types, where the open door would obscure the numbers. Normally, though, numbering on the left seemed to be for freight-rated stock.

[brossard]

Thanks for getting back to me guys.  Yes, I'm a numpty, the picture I referred to is a BR branded van.  The letter is "N" not "M" and I intend for the van to be LMS, sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

What this means is that I have no pictures of the LMS van at all.  My instinct is to go with the branding from the Hornby D2026 van.  I'm also just about finished restoring an old PD model of that too.

 

I did a search last evening, both on here and the interweb in general, but this van seems to be a rare beast.

 

Here's a picture of the detailed underframe which was about 80% of the work:

 

 

The left one was scratch built because the underframe from the old model was too far gone after disassembly, the one on the right is the new kit.

 

I used Bill Bedford sprung W irons and parts from the Mainly Trains brake etches.

 

John

Edited September 29, 2019 by brossard

[iak]

Ones mojo is beating with purpose mon!

Any chance of some close ups of that pair of underframes?

They do look rather tasty...

[brossard]

It's best to keep ones mojo under control, mine has been known to go walkabout for weeks on end.

 

Thanks for your interest iak, your wish is my command:

 

 

I got the info to do these from an article by, who else, Bob Essery, in LMS Journal 31 on Palethorpes Sausage and Experimental Milk.  There are some good excerpts of works drawing showing underframe details of 4 and 6 wheeled vans.  I found these amazingly useful since underframe details are hard to come by.

 

John

Edited September 29, 2019 by brossard

[brossard]

You will notice I changed the title to be more relevant to the way the discussion has morphed.

 

I finished construction of 3 PD vans.  Two of these were restorations while the third was a new build.

 

A pair of D1929:

 

This is the restored van, you can see the side is a bit warped due to overzealous application of glue (I was given this by a friend a lot of years ago)

 

 

This is a new build.

 

 

Restored D2026: 

 

 

I was given this too.  It was red when first done, we know better now.  I bought two of the Hornby models without realizing I had this.

 

John

Edited September 29, 2019 by brossard

[iak]

Mmmmmmm.

Very tasty beasties.

Thanks for the close up as well, very nice.

[brossard]

Blasted Photobucket.  I replaced the pics from my HDD.

 

John