shortliner Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Can anybody tell me the approximate height of a single storey trackside warehouse, either metal sided or concrete , like this, please? My guess is between 12 and 15 feet, but confirmation would be handy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'd say somewhere close to 20', perhaps a little more. The bottoms of the doors would be at floor height for a wagon or trailer (so a bit more than 3'), the doors are about 10', and the wall above the doors is about 2/3rd the height of the door (6-7') Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted November 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2014 Probably even taller than that as in the UK, most HGVs are 16'6" or more, so anything moving around inside would need at least that height clear pls the height of any structural members of the roof. If we are talking about the US, even taller wold be my guess. Is there anything on streetview which can be scaled from to give an idea? Regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmc Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Some good dimensions about halfway down this page. http://bigbluetrains.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=5147&start=30 Regards james Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40019 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Can anybody tell me the approximate height of a single storey trackside warehouse, either metal sided or concrete , like this, please? My guess is between 12 and 15 feet, but confirmation would be handy warehouse.jpg . Dock heights on the truck side of the terminal should be approximately 4'-4" above the pavement, with appropriate ramps at each truck berth to bring the height of the truck bed in line with the dock height. Dock heights on the rail side of the terminal should be approximately 3'-9" above the top of the rail to ensure that the rail car floor is even with the dock floor. This is a useful document on design of army depots including the info above, including design of loading platforms & specifying warehouse door widths (3m / 10ft) http://wbdg.org/ccb/DOD/UFC/ARCHIVES/ufc_4_440_01a.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40019 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 . Dock heights on the truck side of the terminal should be approximately 4'-4" above the pavement, with appropriate ramps at each truck berth to bring the height of the truck bed in line with the dock height. Dock heights on the rail side of the terminal should be approximately 3'-9" above the top of the rail to ensure that the rail car floor is even with the dock floor. This is a useful document on design of army depots including the info above, including design of loading platforms & specifying warehouse door widths (3m / 10ft) http://wbdg.org/ccb/DOD/UFC/ARCHIVES/ufc_4_440_01a.pdf A 40ft Hi-Cube container is 9' 6" tall, so any truck dock door has to be high enough to accept one of these - if you add the 4' 4" trailer height - then you end up with a dock door lintel height that is 13' 10" - so likely about the 15ft height. According to CSX (http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/customers/equipment/railroad-equipment/#boxcar_specs) box car doors are 10ft high or 12ft high (Hi Cube) so again min door lintel height will be 15' 9" from rail height - add a foot for safety & a railroad dock door will likely be in the 17ft-ish height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Probably even taller than that as in the UK, most HGVs are 16'6" or more, ....No, they are not. 16'6" is the height below which every bridge over a road must have it's height signposted. It is also the absolute minimum clearence for a bridge over a motorway as well.The company I drive for is part of the trials with longer15m trailers. They are double-deckers and 16' tall. Most RDC warehouse loading bays cater for trailers up to 15' tall. If anything, in the US trailer heights average lower than that - but they can also be longer than ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 Thanks, guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigZ Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 No, they are not. 16'6" is the height below which every bridge over a road must have it's height signposted. It is also the absolute minimum clearence for a bridge over a motorway as well. The company I drive for is part of the trials with longer15m trailers. They are double-deckers and 16' tall. Most RDC warehouse loading bays cater for trailers up to 15' tall. If anything, in the US trailer heights average lower than that - but they can also be longer than ours. Most US trailers are 45', 48' or 53' now. 40' are very rare now. Twin 28s are common here in the eastern US. Gory details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-trailer_truck#North_America No, they are not. 16'6" is the height below which every bridge over a road must have it's height signposted. It is also the absolute minimum clearence for a bridge over a motorway as well. The company I drive for is part of the trials with longer15m trailers. They are double-deckers and 16' tall. Most RDC warehouse loading bays cater for trailers up to 15' tall. If anything, in the US trailer heights average lower than that - but they can also be longer than ours. Most US trailers are 45', 48' or 53' now. 40' are very rare now. Twin 28s are common here in the eastern US. Gory details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-trailer_truck#North_America Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Just as an alternative - if the warehouse also needs road vehicle access inside (IE - has big "drive inside" doors) - then i've also seen ones where the warehouse floor is at ground level and the external loading bays have a kind of a pit that they back the trailers into... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 As this warehouse seems to have loading docks some distance from ground level, might I suggest that large trucks wouldn't go inside it anyway. From experience in kitting out warehouses of different types (albeit in the UK), most warehouse owners aren't too keen to let HGVs into the confines of the buildings. This is for a number of reasons:- Exhaust fumes set off fire alarms Tyres bring in dirt Trucks take up valuable storage space. Warehouse operators aren't keen on having third-party drivers (or even their own) wandering around the building for various reasons. Most of the places I worked in (mainly around Banbury and Crewe) had generously-proportioned canopies outside the doors to protect loads from the elements during loading/unloading. The one exception to the 'no HGVs inside' rule was the Indesit warehouse at Alsager, which still had a rail track (and adjacent roadway) running down one side of the inside of the building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Most US trailers are 45', 48' or 53' now. 40' are very rare now. Twin 28s are common here in the eastern US. Gory details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-trailer_truck#North_America Working right beside a trucking/intermodal hub, I can tell you that anything under 53' for a single trailer is rare unless it is for a specific application*. Twin 28' trailers are reasonably common, though. We also get twin 53' rigs. Containers are 20', 40', or 53' on appropriate trailers. *Food service delivery trailers tend to be short as they have to get into tighter places. If a bridge doesn't have a clearance sign on it it should be a minimum of 16', so trailers aren't taller than that. A typical 53' trailer or container would be 110" (9'6") plus the height of the box off the road (4'4" per the statement above?), so a total height of less than 15' (closer to 14'). Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Back in the 1960s, Dad did a lot of work for the Steel Company of Wales, converting old tin-mills into road/rail-served 'buffer' warehouses. Most loaded from ground level, which didn't pose a problem. There was one, however, which relied on a loading bay level with the rail van's floor, so it could be loaded via a 'jack-truck' (pallet truck in today's terms). The levels were set very precisely, so the wagon doors could be slid open, loaded/unloaded and closed again. Sadly, the architect had based his calculations on an empty, sliding-door, wagon.. Result; if a hinged-door wagon (which constituted the bulk of the fleet) arrived loaded, the bottom of the doors was below the platform level, and so couldn't be opened. Likewise, the doors on such a wagon couldn't be closed after loading. The only way around this was to open the doors before propelling them into the siding, and closing them once they'd been drawn clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 One of the great things about this forum , is that you can ask the most abstruse questions and somebody will know the answer - Your help is very much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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