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I was told last night that someone at Bachmann has said they intend to produce models of every locomotive in preservation as they can scan the locos which cuts out a lot of the preparatory work of making the model . If that's true, I'm happy because I get a R-T-R BR ex GER E4 and J17. What would you get that makes you happy?

 

If this is also true, it might be worth kit producers not producing anything in preservation as Bachmann will, at some point, be swiping your market.

 

Phil

 

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I was told last night that someone at Bachmann has said they intend to produce models of every locomotive in preservation as they can scan the locos which cuts out a lot of the preparatory work of making the model . If that's true, I'm happy because I get a R-T-R BR ex GER E4 and J17. What would you get that makes you happy?

 

If this is also true, it might be worth kit producers not producing anything in preservation as Bachmann will, at some point, be swiping your market.

 

Phil

But  that of  course  will further  erode  the  art  of   Model Railway  Kit  construction,  are  we  to  become  just  box openers  and  not  real modellers??

 

Intersted to  know   who imparted  the  info   or  was it  just anonymous?

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Oooh, we might get an accurate and  detailed B12 at some stage.

 

At least that announcement leaves the other RTR manufacturers to concentrate on the non-preserved classes.

 

B16s anyone?

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Hmmm, sounds a little fanciful. Is there any provenance?

 

And all it seems to have spurred in is another wish list rather than a discussion of the merits of the rumour and any effect it might have on the hobby.

 

G.

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Might the source have said "only locomotives that are in preservation", which would  seem more relevant and in line with what they are already doing.
 

But  that of  course  will further  erode  the  art  of   Model Railway  Kit  construction,  are  we  to  become  just  box openers  and  not  real modellers??

 

 

Which is surely where many modellers are already.

 

There is plenty more to "real" modelling  that isn't just making metal locomotives though - So its gotta be good to have more toys available

 

Yes you can assemble carriages, wagons, signals, buildings, road vehicles, and all sorts of things from kits, not just locomotives. Unless you don't want to, of course. Perhaps any of that wouldn't count as "real" modelling.

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Having  been  in  this  hobby  for  more  years  than I  care  to  remember  I am  fully  aware  of the  fact  that one  can  assemble other  items asscociated  with   the  Hobby,

 

 HOWEVER  the  OP  refers  to LOCOMOTIVES  which  is  what  my  post  refers  to  also, 

 

I  would  believe   that  there  is   quite  a  bit  more  skill  required in the  construction  of  a  loco  than  is required for  the  other  items  mentioned,  and  yes  I do  speak  from  experience

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I'd suggest it's fanciful speculation from someone. Every manufacturer considers many possible projects and there's many reasons why any may or may not progress. I'm sure Bachmann as well as others may take something as far as production at some point in time and access to a preserved example may be a clincher if something was potentially economically viable.

 

There are preserved locos which Bachmann had previously planned to some degree already which are now shelved because of projects now underway from other manufacturers so using that evidence the speculative statement that had been made can already be proven to be inaccurate.

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Hmmm, sounds a little fanciful. Is there any provenance?

 

And all it seems to have spurred in is another wish list rather than a discussion of the merits of the rumour and any effect it might have on the hobby.

 

G.

 

 

A somewhat tongue in cheek "wishlist" in my case, because if I really wanted either of those two models I mentioned - hardly a list, but I will resist the temptation to be drawn into over-exaggeration - I would build them myself; resulting in two immovable hulks that would sit in a siding looking very sorry for themselves.

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If the craft side of things is what most appeals to you, the availability of an r-t-r equivalent won't make any difference (and nobody is forced to stick with OO anyway).

 

I'm also not entirely convinced that locos are harder to build than coaches, which are needed in numbers and have to be finished to a uniform standard.

 

John

 

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The blunt and unqualified 'model of everything preserved' is highly unlikely.

 

But with the advent of relatively affordable scanning, which has proven instrumental in getting some fine models to market; I should be frankly amazed had not all the major players decided that a careful appraisal of all the available prototypes for suitability for a model production, will form a significant element of their future product development plans.

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I was told last night that someone at Bachmann has said they intend to produce models of every locomotive in preservation as they can scan the locos which cuts out a lot of the preparatory work of making the model .

It might even come to pass - eventually.

 

How is this different to what they are doing now? Each year they release a couple of new locomotive models, which generally (but not necessarily) have a preserved counterpart.

 

If you took the list of unmodelled (in RTR 00), preserved, locomotives and divided it by say 2.5 how many years would producing models of every locomotive in preservation take, and how many of us would be alive when it happened?

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If the craft side of things is what most appeals to you, the availability of an r-t-r equivalent won't make any difference (and nobody is forced to stick with OO anyway).

 

I'm also not entirely convinced that locos are harder to build than coaches, which are needed in numbers and have to be finished to a uniform standard.

 

John

 

(Reply to posts 3 and 10)

It  all depends  on  what comprises  building  a  loco  if  it  is  simply  a  case  of   constructing  a  Body  to  fit  a  RTR  chassis  then  it  is proably much  the  same  as  consructing a  coach, however  if  there  is  a  chassis  concerned  then  I would  say  there  is  much  more  work  and  time  involved,  I attach a couple  of  picks  of  a  loco  I built  in 0  Gauge many  years  ago  which  found  its  way on to  the  front cover  of  the  '86 Model Railway Constructor  annual,  That loco took me around  6 months to  build (and  get  to run well) it  was  sold  for  £675  and  I believe  it  is  still running today  in  a much  warmer  climate!

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Very nice, but how long do you reckon it would take to build 8 or 10 coaches to hang on the back of it? :O

Must  admit  never  got  around  to  building  coaches,  in  that  period  of my Railway modelling  I built  just  the  locos!!,  but  I take  your  point 8 coaches  would  be  a  Mamoth  task.

 

I was  quite  a  relief  when,, Bachmann  Brass and later  Tower Brass ranges  became  available, but  even  those  needed finishing!!

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Hmmm, sounds a little fanciful. Is there any provenance?

 

And all it seems to have spurred in is another wish list rather than a discussion of the merits of the rumour and any effect it might have on the hobby.

 

G.

Now that all the Hornby froth is melting away, has it actually been confirmed when Bachmann will be making their announcements? If is is on March 14/15th, there's loads still outstanding and it'll be only 8 months after last year's! I don't get the club magazine which usually gives the date first. I think it would be sensible to stick to the summer date now to give the big boys a 6 month gap between them (and give more time to get stuff out).

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Igor

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It would take many years for them to do every preserved type of loco and I can't see it being true. However if this is going to end up as a wish list (and it probably will) I would like to see all the preserved Scottish locos and a class 303 EMU (because I put it in every single wish list) oh and the class 89.

By the time they get round to doing all the preserved locos there will be preserved class 68s

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Oh Goody I've always wanted a sectioned Merchant navy! :jester:

 

keith

 

Aye....And one with a correctly shaped / sized / proportioned smokebox / firebox / cab / tender (Take your pick)

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