Keith George Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Is there any chance that ex-LMS Patriot class loco's were repaired or overhauled at Swindon during 1953/4 [or is my memory playing me tricks] Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I can't say a definite No, but I'd be amazed if they were. The only ex-LMS loco repairs done at Swindon that I know of are Stanier Moguls and Ivatt Class 4s from the end of 1963 for about a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The Patriots had draughting issues. Was any testing carried out at the Swindon facility? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 What made me ask this was that I remember seeing a ex-works Patriot class at Lawrence Hill station during 1953 or early 1954. It was on a stopping passenger train and the new paint was gleaming and with a very strong paint smell. I know it was a long time ago but I remember one of the older lads saying that it was a running in turn from Swindon. It was in black lined livery. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It's more likely to be running in from Crewe, although the usual running in turn from Crewe was a return trip to Shrewsbury! More unusually Derby works overhauled some elderly GWR pannier tanks and some ex LNER 0-6-0 tender engines just after nationalisation. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 It's more likely to be running in from Crewe, although the usual running in turn from Crewe was a return trip to Shrewsbury! More unusually Derby works overhauled some elderly GWR pannier tanks and some ex LNER 0-6-0 tender engines just after nationalisation. David If it was running in from Crewe would it be running down the Western line into Bristol.? Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Patriots regularly worked down to Bristol. Though most Midland/LMS workings from B'ham went via Mangotsfield, some were booked via Stoke Gifford. Maybe it was on one of these turns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Patriots regularly worked down to Bristol. Though most Midland/LMS workings from B'ham went via Mangotsfield, some were booked via Stoke Gifford. Maybe it was on one of these turns? I had not realised that some Midland workings came to Bristol via Stoke Gifford, that could very well be the answer to a long standing puzzle for me. Did many Midland services work via Stoke Gifford and Stapleton Road/ Lawrence hill.? Regards, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 Patriots regularly worked down to Bristol. Though most Midland/LMS workings from B'ham went via Mangotsfield, some were booked via Stoke Gifford. Maybe it was on one of these turns? Patriots not only worked regularly to Bristol but some were allocated at various times to Barrow Road - thus they would not be an unusual sight in the area although I suspect rather unusual at Lawrence Hill on the GW line (possibly a diversion for some reason?). I have always understood that a regular Crewe works running-in route was to Salop hence Stanier pacifics, including the streamliners in their time, were not an unusual sight there (as a number of photos testify). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The answer to this question (tongue firmly in cheek) were any Pat's seen with copper capped chimney's? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrowroad Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I had not realised that some Midland workings came to Bristol via Stoke Gifford, that could very well be the answer to a long standing puzzle for me. Did many Midland services work via Stoke Gifford and Stapleton Road/ Lawrence hill.? Regards, Keith The 'Devonian' was routed via Stoke Gifford in one direction and via Mangotsfield in the other. Without checking my working timetables [ packed away at present following a move] I cannot confirm which but I believe the northbound went via Stoke Gifford. The Devonian was usually rostered to a Jubilee but Bristol Barrow Road had Patriots 45504, 45506 and 45519 allocated between 1958 and 1961. Regards, Robin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I had not realised that some Midland workings came to Bristol via Stoke Gifford, that could very well be the answer to a long standing puzzle for me. Did many Midland services work via Stoke Gifford and Stapleton Road/ Lawrence hill.? Regards, Keith A few Patriots were allocated to Bristol Barrow Road shed in the 1950s and 60s. It could possibly have been one of those. Beat me to it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yes, I am aware of the three Patriots shedded a Barrow Road, saw them all many times. The southbound Cornishman came down via Mangotsfield. I used to see it on the Midland line crossing the Western line at Lawrence Hill, almost always hauled by a WR Castle. This Patriot in 1953/4 stopped at platform 2 at Lawrence Hill right in front of me, I was sitting on the bench under the large Lawrence Hill station sign. I can even recall the very strong fresh paint smell. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 If it was running in from Crewe would it be running down the Western line into Bristol.? Keith. Hello Sandra [ sweetie pie] What on earth is the disagree about.? I was trying to clarify what David had said. I know it was very unlikely that that loco's would do a running in turn from Crewe to Bristol.. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 When questions are asked here many people go to a lot of effort to try to find the answer. If the questioner doesn't give the full background to the question, including dates (not the case here but commonly left out) and what the questioner already knows about the subject, the responders can quite reasonably feel upset to be told, "Yes I know that". I have noticed recently a trend here towards fewer responses to questions asked and fewer thanks offered to those who do trouble, whether or not the answer fully satisfies the questioner. The correct response to an answer is either: "Sorry, I forgot to give this extra relevant piece of information" .......or simply, "Thank you". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 To be fair, the original question regarded Baby Scots being repaired or overhauled at Swindon. It is well known that the class worked into Bristol, so the many responses stating this did not really address the query. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't know about 1953/4, but the 1959 WTT shows that the 7.30am Penzance-Manchester was booked to stop at Stapleton Road from 2.13pm to 2.16pm. A likely candidate for a Crewe loco to appear there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 To be fair, the original question regarded Baby Scots being repaired or overhauled at Swindon. It is well known that the class worked into Bristol, so the many responses stating this did not really address the query. Thank-you very much for clarifying that. Regards , Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 When questions are asked here many people go to a lot of effort to try to find the answer. If the questioner doesn't give the full background to the question, including dates (not the case here but commonly left out) and what the questioner already knows about the subject, the responders can quite reasonably feel upset to be told, "Yes I know that". I have noticed recently a trend here towards fewer responses to questions asked and fewer thanks offered to those who do trouble, whether or not the answer fully satisfies the questioner. The correct response to an answer is either: "Sorry, I forgot to give this extra relevant piece of information" .......or simply, "Thank you". THANK_YOU. There was only one person I was making that comment to and that was "SANDRA" ? HE or SHE ? just pressed disagree button for no reason that I could fathom out . Regards, Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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