class37418stag Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hello everyone Three building of same style or different style of shed? What I am look three big shed of Bachman two lane of traction shed in 1980s or Hornby traction shed Because I have one shed and want buy two more shed Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Bachmann two lane traction shed in 1970s - 1980s 44-141 OR Bachmann traction servicing depot 44-178 OR Hornby traction shed R9679 OR Pocket bond Classic EM6107 twin engine shed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Three building of same style or different style of shed? Hi Andrew, This can depend on what era/time frame you are modelling, when the depot opened originally, and the size of both the depot and the layout? If you were to look at Carnforth depot as it is on its current site there is a small 2 road shed built in the 1880's by the Midland Railway (made of red brick), and large shed was opened around 1944 (made of concrete). Then after the depot closed and Steamtown railway museum was opened, a two road metal sheeted shed was built , and then more recently West Coast Railways extended the 1944 shed with steel beams and metal sheets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnforth_MPD http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/45192-2/WestCoastRailways-cb45083.jpg N.B - link of ariel photo found on google, not my photo! Hope this may help a bit. Kind regards Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think he's modelling a diesel depot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hi Andrew I don't know if you want to use the different sheds separately within the same depot or next to each other side by side, or lengthways. However here is an example from the 1980s of a servicing shed extended lengthways, The servicing shed at Bath Road was extended to be able to cater for 3 car DMUS, hence the two different styles Here it is being extended in 1983 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristol-re/14126030121/in/photolist-nwgABt-nUbGtK-8v4NWn-h7wKps-8aMK6B-dz6z81-nMSBnP-8EyAoQ-bjve3y-q1MvYY-4X96Yo-iogBKW-6ucnZP-n4cQEx-47gzfr-9bMdC4-gJnehw-asw7dP-92pndq-99t69Z-oFfpgo-csCoEd-4eoTZ8-e7QQws-hTYyiC-45qkxw-9cvxPG-7GqPHP-oFh5bP-67EHrF-67EHyT-46MC2a-9bQhnY-oF1w4D-9V8BZV-8KzSU5-ods3S6-bCQvqg-gGT1nA-asw7tp-cyPPmy-47hSUa-nf562d-od4kSY-kyGgeh-67EJ9V-oF4x6q-nt4Wck-86q7zY-9cQciz cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think he's modelling a diesel depot? Yes you are right by I am build diesel depot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hi Andrew, This can depend on what era/time frame you are modelling, when the depot opened originally, and the size of both the depot and the layout? If you were to look at Carnforth depot as it is on its current site there is a small 2 road shed built in the 1880's by the Midland Railway (made of red brick), and large shed was opened around 1944 (made of concrete). Then after the depot closed and Steamtown railway museum was opened, a two road metal sheeted shed was built , and then more recently West Coast Railways extended the 1944 shed with steel beams and metal sheets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnforth_MPD http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/d/45192-2/WestCoastRailways-cb45083.jpg N.B - link of ariel photo found on google, not my photo! Hope this may help a bit. Kind regards Ian Sorry Ian, that's not quit right, the 2 road shed is the former L.N.W.R. one (1st) that latter became the C&W workshop. The shed that became Steamtown was the latter L.M.S. (3rd) one rebuilt on the site of the former L.N.W.R. (2nd) & F.R. joint shed (some people say it way only a F.R. shed with the L.N.W.R. paying the F.R. for service facilitates). The M.R. shed was always on the joint F.R. & M.R. line to Wennington. Sorry for going off track, OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I have Hornby traction shed and maybe buy Bachmann servicing depot and in 1980 diesel depot for my layout Please help me thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 We are unsure what you want to know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Bachmann 44-178 traction servicing depot or/and co4411 modern servicing depot and two lane traction depot 44-141 I have choose one Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2015 Bachmann 44-178 traction servicing depot or/and co4411 modern servicing depot and two lane traction depot 44-141 I have choose one Thank you Of the two, I think the 44-141 does not quite look right to me, I can't think of a shed that had that design. Someone else on here may know... The 44-178 model does look more prototypical, eg Burton upon Trent? Both are quite expensive though... My advice would be to have a look at books with photos of diesel depots, such as 'BR Diesels on Depot' by David Nicholas and Stephen Montgomery (Ian Allan, 1984), and Chris Hawkins' wonderful 'Diesel Depots - The Early Years' (Irwell Press, 1989). There is also Ted Reading's 'Diesels, Depots and Oil Drums' (Finial Publishing, 2014), which is excellent. Having a look at photos will help you gauge the kind of thing you're after, and shop accordingly! Personally, I quite like the Bachmann Single Road Diesel Locomotive Servicing Depot 44-126 though I am not sure how widely available it is now. (Edit: I see there is one still listed here: http://pufferwillies.co.uk/uk2ecommerce/product/bachmann_scenecraft_44-126_oo_scale_modern_single_road_diesel_locomotive_servicing_depot/ ) cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Ok but I am worry about lot equipment and men won't fits both shed are very tight by no space by Bachmann 44-141 two lane traction depot and 44-178 traction servicing depot My Hornby traction shed more space for lot equipment and men I do wish buy Bachmann 44-178 traction servicing depot but no room for equipment,pumping,men Who owned Bachmann 44-178 traction servicing depot with equipment? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I see what you mean. However, you could use the Hornby shed as the main part of the depot where loco maintenance is carried out, and have a 44-178 next to it as a stabling shed where locos that are awaiting servicing are kept? I suppose it is up to your imagination. If it were me, I would probably buy a second Hornby R9679 and add that either on the end of the first one, or to the side of it, but you may not have the room to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I see what you mean. However, you could use the Hornby shed as the main part of the depot where loco maintenance is carried out, and have a 44-178 next to it as a stabling shed where locos that are awaiting servicing are kept? I suppose it is up to your imagination. If it were me, I would probably buy a second Hornby R9679 and add that either on the end of the first one, or to the side of it, but you may not have the room to do that. I will buy one more traction shed make four line of servicing depot because I have plenty room of layout and will buy two shed of two lane shed for stabling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 That sounds like an excellent plan. I hope that you can take some photographs and let us see how your diesel depot is progressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 That sounds like an excellent plan. I hope that you can take some photographs and let us see how your diesel depot is progressing. Thanks and will put photo soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'd take a look at this too: https://railsofsheffield.com/train-shed-unit-lk80-JJJA6492.aspx They're pretty easy to assemble and paint and have enough space inside for setting out maintenance equipment. Compared to the ready-to-plant stuff the kit is good value too. cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I wonder if the Bachmann Scenecraft Two Lane Traction Depot (44-141) is based loosely on Healey Mills depot? It looks similar in some of the features albeit a two road instead of three/four and shorter: https://flic.kr/p/9NmbB4 https://flic.kr/p/baBn52 https://flic.kr/p/e28gvF https://flic.kr/p/7bqJ8Z 37677,37515 Healey Mills Depot 27 December 1996 by Kempydak, on Flickr Healey Mills Train Yard by stratters, on Flickr 56083 at Healey Mills by Awwalker1, on Flickr Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Very few sheds had stabling for locos inside a building, it wouldn't have been economical. On a small depot, a single shed does both servicing and fueling. They could be one, two, or three road. Single road sheds occurred at Kings Lynn and Peterborough, two roads at Newport Ebbw Junction, and three road at Frodingham and Shirebrook, if I recall correctly. Then, larger sheds could have a building for maintenance, usually two, three or even four roads, sometimes double ended, with a SECOND building for servicing and fueling, usually single road, occasionally two, and on really large sheds such as Old Oak Common, three. Even small sheds usually had an office of some sort. Small to medium had workshops, offices, parts storage, sand drying, fuel tanks etc etc. Larger sheds had decent sized office blocks as well as the ones listed above. See on this pic of Landore, (you can find this on Google Earth): https://khms0.googleapis.com/kh?v=165&hl=en-US&x=32050&y=21753&z=16&token=72858 Darker building was two roads, servicing, lighter building was three roads, maintenance. Large office block beside lighter building, diesel storage tanks to it's left. That plan would fit your baseboards, and is PROTOTYPICAL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I wonder if the Bachmann Scenecraft Two Lane Traction Depot (44-141) is based loosely on Healey Mills depot? It looks similar in some of the features albeit a two road instead of three/four and shorter: https://flic.kr/p/9NmbB4 https://flic.kr/p/baBn52 https://flic.kr/p/e28gvF https://flic.kr/p/7bqJ8Z 37677,37515 Healey Mills Depot 27 December 1996 by Kempydak, on Flickr Healey Mills Train Yard by stratters, on Flickr 56083 at Healey Mills by Awwalker1, on Flickr Hope that helps. Thanks to grimleygirdI didn't know that Bachmann scenecraft copy real healey mill TMD but thank you So look small room for maintenance men was servicing or heavy maintenance inside healey mill ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hi Andrew, I do not have much knowledge of Healey Mills TMD but my understanding is that in the early 1980s it changed from a Traction Maintenance Depot to just a servicing shed. I am sure that someone on this site will have better knowledge and able to provide you with more information. This website might be of use to you: http://www.ossett.com/hm/stories1.htm Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hi Andrew, I do not have much knowledge of Healey Mills TMD but my understanding is that in the early 1980s it changed from a Traction Maintenance Depot to just a servicing shed. I am sure that someone on this site will have better knowledge and able to provide you with more information. This website might be of use to you: http://www.ossett.com/hm/stories1.htm Hope that helps. I has seen healey mill have two shed means one large shed for servicing and one small shed for fuelling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 I has seen healey mill have two shed means one large shed for servicing and one small shed for fuelling?Found photo show two shedhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/tcs-pics/7829557874/in/photolist-cZwDmf-98LAhL-9WuaAL-ei562w-qWYU93-cJ9neL-q2YkfD-pF9puy-p9t1RN-nJvms9-cVSwM9-egnbYP-95stuK-9B2oqe-7sDuV8-9UtB8d-fju7Jp-bbKt8T-njGdjN-bywHKq-egFGvC-qPHj9h-brS6YJ-77MnXw-f7nCX9-mot7BW-oS3nYe-bcvBzD-bA66x7-9hqDbb-ehHMwp-eM9ccw-bDrHnF-fMxnGm-k1EKr5-oS3nLR-eSMbF1-cvTkDo-8ziQAa-bC79AY-bDgByF-psP3pa-7upVos-buViya-9vj45N-kPjKCr-4vFuBU-cPSfWQ-9g4kPc-aB4BPt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I must be writing in invisible text. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I has seen healey mill have two shed means one large shed for servicing and one small shed for fuelling? Hi Andrew, Jeff kindly wrote a nice post, number 19, about different depots and facilities. Worth reading and very helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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