The Nth Degree Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I'm trying to find out whether a J68 ever travelled to any of the above locations during the late 50s so I can identify one to build. I know that while stationed at Stratford they often came by this way, but I can't find a reference or picture of one to identify. They were also located (at least one was) in Lowestoft, part of the East Coast Line to Ipswich, so theoretically could have made it down, or off one of the branches. Can anyone confirm any of this? I was going to choose 68656, but I'm not so sure. Thanks, Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I know this will come as anathema for some, but unless someone can prove the loco never ran in a particular area (if any one say's it would never have happened, ask them to provide photographic evidence), do you need to prove it did? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulG Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Steve I have had a look at the BR database web site for allocations and none of the J68 class appear to have been allocated to Ipswich in BR days. But, for example 68642 was re-allocated from Stratford to Lowestoft. To do so it would have had to via Ipswich and could well have stayed a day or so (I like that model railway rule!). I've had a quick look at Yeadon's Register and 7025 was allocated to Ipswich from 10/11/46 to 16/02/47, but can't see any other references to a member of the class being allocated to Ipswich or its sub-sheds of Felixstowe or Framlingham. You can always use the other model railway "rule", it's my railway........................... Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 ...do you need to prove it did? Phil ...it's my railway... Paul Thanks both, and good points. I guess being slightly nerdy (but not too much!) it's the details that I'm interested in, and as I have to number it at some point, what number would I choose? I'm going to stick with 68656. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Steve You may like to know that I have finished building an E4, 62798, that was the last of the class running. At my club we are building a layout called Great Tey that represents Marks Tey as it was in the 50's. so my loco would be completely perfect for the layout. the problem is, the new layout is OO and I model EM. The club layout that my loco will run on is late 50's ex GER but nowhere near the Stour Valley, where 62789 finished it's days, but we'll still run my E4! As a member of the GER Society, I suppose I should be concerned that my loco actually never ran on the rails which are fictional in themselves, but guess what............ As PaulG said, well, actually, in the case of our club, it's the plural rather than the singular! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 As a PS to my posting above, I don't want people to think that I would happily sanction running a Manor, Jones Goods or whatever over my ex GER branch lime metals. There have to be limits to credibility and reality. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Steve You may like to know that I have finished building an E4, 62798, that was the last of the class running. At my club we are building a layout called Great Tey that represents Marks Tey as it was in the 50's. so my loco would be completely perfect for the layout. the problem is, the new layout is OO and I model EM. The club layout that my loco will run on is late 50's ex GER but nowhere near the Stour Valley, where 62789 finished it's days, but we'll still run my E4! As a member of the GER Society, I suppose I should be concerned that my loco actually never ran on the rails which are fictional in themselves, but guess what............ As PaulG said, well, actually, in the case of our club, it's the plural rather than the singular! Phil Phil - may I ever so gently point out that the last E4 was neither 62789 nor 62798 (which didn't exist), but 62785. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Phil - may I ever so gently point out that the last E4 was neither 62789 nor 62798 (which didn't exist), but 62785. Thanks, Eddie, you are totally correct. I think my posting was a senior moment induced by some pinot noir! And just to prove I didn't have a senior moment when numbering the loco........... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Nice E4, Phil. Scratchbuild or kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Nice E4, Phil. Scratchbuild or kit? The loco body is an Autocom white metal body (ex Stephen Poole moulds - remember them? shows how old you are, then! :-) ) on a chassis scratch built from Gibson milled frames with Mashima 1020 motor and High Level Roadrunner gearbox at 54:1 ratio. The tender is virtually complete Autocom except the tender cab which is the surplus from a Gibson J15 kit. I've added details such as Westinghouse pump, chimney, dome etc. from the Gibson brass range. The loco will be running on the Mid Essex MRC layout "Blackwell Brewery" at the St. Neots show on March 14th adn 15th, if you want to see it in the flesh. The E4 will also be in the company of my Gibson J15 and Stelfox J17 along with a few other bits and pieces. I'll now stop hijacking the thread! :-) Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Ha! That's exactly the J15 I'm going the model (the number, not the kit). How uncanny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Ha! That's exactly the J15 I'm going the model (the number, not the kit). How uncanny. I guess, then, that you're building a layout based around the Aldeborough area, as that's mainly where, as far as I'm aware, the loco worked. What I am pleased about is that no one has yet picked me up on the one mistake I've made - the loco's unfitted so should have a three link coupling. This photo proves it! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 In around '58is it was the branch loco for both Framlingham and Snape out of Ipswich. Just about every photo I have of this loco from that date is on one of those branches. I'm sure it ventured off those lines ocassionally though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The loco body is an Autocom white metal body (ex Stephen Poole moulds - remember them? shows how old you are, then! :-) ) on a chassis scratch built from Gibson milled frames with Mashima 1020 motor and High Level Roadrunner gearbox at 54:1 ratio. The tender is virtually complete Autocom except the tender cab which is the surplus from a Gibson J15 kit. I've added details such as Westinghouse pump, chimney, dome etc. from the Gibson brass range. The loco will be running on the Mid Essex MRC layout "Blackwell Brewery" at the St. Neots show on March 14th adn 15th, if you want to see it in the flesh. along with a few other bits and pieces. I'll now stop hijacking the thread! :-) Phil Apologies for further hi-jackery. Thanks, Phil. I used to have a Stephen Poole E4 kit (one of the original 499, if you remember the adverts!), which I sold on to a friend at school (and who remains a fellow members of the Great Eastern Railway Society). I thought I recognised some of the castings on your model. I also have/had a BEC J17 which sat on a Triang-Hornby chassis, and which sort of jerked and short-circuited it's way around the track. Your model looks a whole lot better! I did start making a J15 from scratch which, like most of my projects, never saw completion. It was going to be one of the side-window conversions (64505). I think I still have most of the bits, so I may try to marry up the cab sides with the Hornby model (when it eventually comes out). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Apologies for further hi-jackery. Thanks, Phil. I used to have a Stephen Poole E4 kit (one of the original 499, if you remember the adverts!), which I sold on to a friend at school (and who remains a fellow members of the Great Eastern Railway Society). I thought I recognised some of the castings on your model. I also have/had a BEC J17 which sat on a Triang-Hornby chassis, and which sort of jerked and short-circuited it's way around the track. Your model looks a whole lot better! I did start making a J15 from scratch which, like most of my projects, never saw completion. It was going to be one of the side-window conversions (64505). I think I still have most of the bits, so I may try to marry up the cab sides with the Hornby model (when it eventually comes out). Thanks for the compliment about the J17. I love flattery! :-) One of my bêtes noire is poor running, and I'm pleased to say that all three locos run reasonably well by my standards. I'm especially pleased with the E4 - the chassis is compensated with rear driving axle fixed while the front and middle axles are pivoted about a single beam. I set the pivot point 2/3 towards the front carrying axle so 2/3 weight goes on to the front driving axle, and this works very well. At this point, I will admit that I didn't build the J15, it was built by a friend of mine (who is a professional builder) for another friend (Yes, I've got more than one friend, just!) who, for some reason, decided he didn't want it any more so I bought it, especially as it runs as well as it looks. I'm now in the process of building a J19 from a PDK kit - I really should take some pictures so I can put them on here to hopefully inspire other modellers and show them that if I can build an etched kit, anyone can! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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