Looking for brother

[Catweasel]

This is a bit of a strange request. The family is trying to find a long lost brother. His name is Geoffrey H. Allen and his last known location was in the Feltham, Middlesex area. We have placed an appeal with the local press for the area as well as other organisations. As far as I know, he is not a railway modeller but maybe some one on this forum may know him. If you do, I would welcome a PM which I would acknowledge. I don't want to publish my phone number for obvious reasons but we do need to find him if possible. Thank you.  

[Steve-e]

This is a bit of a strange request. The family is trying to find a long lost brother. His name is Geoffrey H. Allen and his last known location was in the Feltham, Middlesex area. We have placed an appeal with the local press for the area as well as other organisations. As far as I know, he is not a railway modeller but maybe some one on this forum may know him. If you do, I would welcome a PM which I would acknowledge. I don't want to publish my phone number for obvious reasons but we do need to find him if possible. Thank you.  

You could try this http://www.192.com/atoz/people/allen/geoffrey/tw14/2124452307/

 

Or plenty more here http://www.192.com/atoz/people/allen/geoffrey/

 

 

Steve

[Chris Chewter]

The same address, interestingly in full, plus another address in Watford came up on this site:

 

http://www.freefindpeopleuk.co.uk/Search_Results_History.asp?c=2612526&firstname=GEOFFREY+&middleinitial=H&lastname=ALLEN&region=M25

[Catweasel]

The same address, interestingly in full, plus another address in Watford came up on this site:

 

http://www.freefindpeopleuk.co.uk/Search_Results_History.asp?c=2612526&firstname=GEOFFREY+&middleinitial=H&lastname=ALLEN&region=M25

 

Thanks for these. The freefind site does list him, but the address is wrong. He did live in Routh Court,but lost the house. Since then, who knows where he is. Another thing is that both sites charge. We will use that as a last resource though.

[edcayton]

Have you tried the Salvation Army?

 

Ed

[Colin_McLeod]

. Another thing is that both sites charge.

Might be worth it to find a long lost brother.  .  http://www.freefindpeopleuk.co.uk/Purchase.asp

 

Best wishes with your search

[Steve Williams]

This site lists ten people of that name, including your brother's last known address. obviously, one of the other listings could be his new address:

http://www.freeelectoralroll.co.uk/Find_People.asp

[Glorious NSE]

Have you tried the Salvation Army?

http://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/FamilyTracing

 

[Andy Y]

You can have mine.

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

I have a fair amount to do with this kind of enquiry, and cannot commend the Salvation Army highly enough for the effective assistance they so often provide.

 

As for unwanted brothers, well; into everyone's life, a little rain must fall. They are fairly ubiquitous, sad to say.

[edcayton]

As an only child I didn't want my kids to endure the loneliness I had. My two sons can't stand each other and don't communicate.

 

Ed

[Joseph_Pestell]

It may help any searchers if you could give the date at which you were last in contact and what age he is. Did he have a job/profession?

 

Presumably he was single or you would have help in tracing him through partner/children.

 

Edit: PS. Did he have any particular connections (childhood for instance), in another part of the country?

[Joseph_Pestell]

The last census in the UK was in 2011, so that data should be online by now. It may help you narrow down when this chap lost his last known address and thus limit your search. If you haven't already, contact the local authorities and ask if they know where he moved to after leaving said address.

 

Other options include HM prison service (he may have a criminal record) or coroners office in case he passed away.

 

If you already tried the above, apol's for stating the obvious!

 

Trouble is that these days most organisations will not divulge such info because of "Data Protection".

 

Records of Deaths will be heavy going unless one already has a small geographic area to cover.

[Kenton]

Good luck. But I am never comfortable with this type of appeal. Many people go "missing" and the last thing they want is to be "found".

 

My sister went "missing" over 40 years ago. When my father died I used "contacts" and other resources I had to track her down and made contact with her through the local police. The venom that came from her to us and the solicitors handling the estate was shocking, She really did want to be "missing" and wanted to stay that way. We now respect that decision and are very sorry we interfered and forced her to move again.

 

Always think very carefully about any reason you are trying to find someone, they may have good reasons why they wish to keep themselves private.

[sp1]

The last census in the UK was in 2011, so that data should be online by now. It may help you narrow down when this chap lost his last known address and thus limit your search. If you haven't already, contact the local authorities and ask if they know where he moved to after leaving said address.

 

Other options include HM prison service (he may have a criminal record) or coroners office in case he passed away.

 

If you already tried the above, apol's for stating the obvious!

No personal information from any UK census is available for 100 years after it was made: this has always been the case.

[Coppercap]

The last census in the UK was in 2011, so that data should be online by now. It may help you narrow down when this chap lost his last known address and thus limit your search.

 

 

Census details (as opposed to the statistics from them) are only released to the public about 100 years after the census. The most recent census we can view in detail is the 1911 census, but the 1921 census details won't be available until 2021 (or maybe just before). The electoral registers is the best chance if the person is still alive and in the country, and at large (as opposed to behind locked doors), assuming they haven't ticked to box to not go on the publicly-available listing of the register.   

[Kenton]

 

The electoral registers is the best chance if the person is still alive and in the country, and at large (as opposed to behind locked doors), assuming they haven't ticked to box to not go on the publicly-available listing of the register.

IF they have bothered to register. It is quite staggering just how many folk simply can't be bothered to register simply because they cannot be bothered to vote. And now the registration system has changed many more will probably not bother.

[Judge Dread]

Census details (as opposed to the statistics from them) are only released to the public about 100 years after the census. The most recent census we can view in detail is the 1911 census, but the 1921 census details won't be available until 2021 (or maybe just before). The electoral registers is the best chance if the person is still alive and in the country, and at large (as opposed to behind locked doors), assuming they haven't ticked to box to not go on the publicly-available listing of the register.   

I made enquiries in our local history centre about the possibility of the 1921 census details being released early and was told "They may not be released at all!".

[PhilJ W]

I made enquiries in our local history centre about the possibility of the 1921 census details being released early and was told "They may not be released at all!".

They will be released, by law they have to be.

[kevinlms]

Good luck. But I am never comfortable with this type of appeal. Many people go "missing" and the last thing they want is to be "found".

 

My sister went "missing" over 40 years ago. When my father died I used "contacts" and other resources I had to track her down and made contact with her through the local police. The venom that came from her to us and the solicitors handling the estate was shocking, She really did want to be "missing" and wanted to stay that way. We now respect that decision and are very sorry we interfered and forced her to move again.

 

Always think very carefully about any reason you are trying to find someone, they may have good reasons why they wish to keep themselves private.

But you have no way of telling whether they want to be contacted or not. The world of missing persons, is full of people that are indeed trying to contact each other, for decades in some cases. To say, I'd better not attempt to contact them, because they may not want to be contacted, makes it harder and near impossible.

 

The whole business should be done through neutral 3rd parties and preferably not government departments.

[kevinlms]

They will be released, by law they have to be.

In Australia, other than basic statistical information, all sensus records are destroyed.

 

This is true of most of Australia, since around the 1840s.

 

http://guides.slv.vic.gov.au/content.php?pid=81642&sid=605794

 

So of no help to genealogists.

[jonny777]

They will be released, by law they have to be.

 

Yes, there has been a lot of lobbying for the 1921 census details to be released early, as the 1911 was. However, the 1911 census was not subject to the same laws as the 1921 and therefore had few legal obstacles to overcome when it came to a slightly earlier release.

 

The 1921 is subject to the strict 100 year rule, and despite pressure being put on the General Record Office it is unlikely that we will see anything until after 2021.

 

Beyond that, the situation becomes even worse, because the 1931 records were destroyed in a fire and there was no 1941 version due to WW2.

 

Therefore after 2021 there will be no more census releases until 2051, when the 1951 version can be made public.

[PGC]

You can have mine.

...or mine!

[PhilJ W]

Yes, there has been a lot of lobbying for the 1921 census details to be released early, as the 1911 was. However, the 1911 census was not subject to the same laws as the 1921 and therefore had few legal obstacles to overcome when it came to a slightly earlier release.

 

The 1921 is subject to the strict 100 year rule, and despite pressure being put on the General Record Office it is unlikely that we will see anything until after 2021.

 

Beyond that, the situation becomes even worse, because the 1931 records were destroyed in a fire and there was no 1941 version due to WW2.

 

Therefore after 2021 there will be no more census releases until 2051, when the 1951 version can be made public.

There might not have been a census in 1941 but about 1940 a form of census took place largely to assess who was eligible for war service, this is not as 'complete' as a census but is now in the public domain, as are electoral registers, telephone books and trade directories.

[jonny777]

Sadly, trade directories, telephone books and electoral registers give very limited information when compared with the 1911 census.

 

If you are lucky, you will get an address and an occupation from a combination of the former documents, but not ages, birthplaces, length of marriage, relationship to others in the household, etc., which are some of the most vital items for cross referencing people from one decade to the next; and especially where surnames are common ones.