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A while ago I thought I saw that the Gwili Railway was hoping to open their southwards extension to Abergwili Junction in time for the 50th Anniversary of the closure of the line to passengers, which falls on 20th Feb 2015. However, their website currently makes no mention of this in the description of the celebration event.

 

Does anyone know the current state of affairs, please?

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I met a volunteer from the Gwili who was visiting the Teifi Valley Railway today. He was saying that the people who run the railway are also the ones building the extension, so extension building stops when the railway is running. I got the impression they don't know when it will be ready, but if it's not by the summer holidays it won't be this year.

 

We need more fit and active volunteers in West Wales. It's a great area to visit, so bring the family for a holiday while you have fun on a railway, either the Gwili, or the TVR. Or both!

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I met a volunteer from the Gwili who was visiting the Teifi Valley Railway today. He was saying that the people who run the railway are also the ones building the extension, so extension building stops when the railway is running. I got the impression they don't know when it will be ready, but if it's not by the summer holidays it won't be this year.

 

We need more fit and active volunteers in West Wales. It's a great area to visit, so bring the family for a holiday while you have fun on a railway, either the Gwili, or the TVR. Or both!

The Gwilii is one railway I really must visit. That and the Pontypool & Blaenavon.

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Yes, I went for a ride on the new extension last week and it was good fun. The views over the Gwili on the new bit are better and more open than those on the northern section IMHO so well worth a visit.

 

Groupon currently have a discount for the Gwili railway which is always handy. https://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/the-gwili-railway-1

 

It would be nice if they could get a GWR tank engine for motive power but possibly beyond their budget.

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Here is photographic evidence that Gwili Railway trains now run to Abergwili Junction, and indeed there is no access other than by train from Bronwydd Arms, and there isn't anything at Abergwili except a platform and run-round loop.

 

The ride was very scenic, but we were there at lunchtime, and there were only crisps and cakes in the refreshment room - not a sausage roll or sandwich to be had!

 

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in an idle moment at work I've been looking at Google earth/maps and looks like the A40 prevents any further extension to Carmarthen. 

 

Presumably they can still extend the other way towards Llanpumpsaint.

There might just be enough room for a single track to reach into Camarthen but I would imagine cost and local objections would be the main blockers, but going the other way they could go for miles, Pencader anyone?

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I was chatting to a couple of volunteers when I visited a fortnight ago and I think that extending to Llanpumpsaint is definitely a long-term aspiration. In the shorter term I think they are looking to develop Abergwili junction with carpark and facilities that will make it easier to access the line from Carmarthen rather than having to traipse out to Bronwydd Arms to catch the trains.

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There might just be enough room for a single track to reach into Camarthen but I would imagine cost and local objections would be the main blockers, but going the other way they could go for miles, Pencader anyone?

An extension of the Gwili Railway to Pencader might prove to be problematic woodenhead.  A section of the trackbed on the Carmarthen side of Pencader tunnel runs through land recently aquired by the Hindu and Multi-Faith ashram at Skanda Vale, near Llanpumpsaint.  

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There's certainly room for locatiing track to rejoin the main line at Carmarthen; but it's sort of reserved for the rebuilding of the Aber - Carmarthen line.

 

With well over 90% of that route currently available for restoration and the Welsh Government's £300,000 study taking place this month - run by the same folk who studied the restoration of the Scottish Borders line - this is really the elephant in the room that the Gwili folks are aware of but don't seem to want to talk about much!

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There's certainly room for locatiing track to rejoin the main line at Carmarthen; but it's sort of reserved for the rebuilding of the Aber - Carmarthen line.

I don't see that happening. There are only a handful of towns of any size between those 2 destinations and I am not sure how much through traffic there would be based on the usual state of the A487. Most of the holdups on this route (which parallels the northern stretch of the route) are caused by farmers driving tractors along it rather than weight of traffic.

 

Also I simply don't think the funding will exist by the time the study is complete. Wales receives a lot of money from the EU Regional Development Fund which will dry up after Brexit. Westminster won't be stepping in to replace the lost funding so I suspect public service projects outside the home counties will take a severe pruning.

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I suspect the preservationists are putting the "potential reopening" into the "worry about that when it happens" box. I doubt they've got much to worry about anyway, but if it does come to pass they already own a chunk of the trackbed, so they'll get some money from that.

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Maybe they could use the money to restore Pencader Junction to Newcastle Emlyn and run steam there instead? I think that most of the trackbed there is still intact. The Teifi Valley railway owns part of it but they are having problems of their own at the moment. :(

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There's certainly room for locatiing track to rejoin the main line at Carmarthen; but it's sort of reserved for the rebuilding of the Aber - Carmarthen line.

 

With well over 90% of that route currently available for restoration and the Welsh Government's £300,000 study taking place this month - run by the same folk who studied the restoration of the Scottish Borders line - this is really the elephant in the room that the Gwili folks are aware of but don't seem to want to talk about much!

Hardly the "elephant in the room". The railway imputted into the initial study, and part of the brief of Mott McDonald is to evaluate alternatives along the Gwili section, including track sharing (unlikely) dualing the section (improbable) but more realistically constructing a new alignment between Carmarthen and Pencader which bypasses the old line. Traws Link Cymru have always included the concept of "bypassing" the Gwili in their plans.

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