RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2015 Did any of this Diagram run with Gresley bogies (SR allocated ones)? Can't see any info in Parkin. Many thanks. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 None ever had Gresley bogies. Built with heavy duty standard bogies (commonly known as BR2) and re-fitted with B5 beginning 1965 onwards. All fitted by the 01/01/1969. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 15, 2015 It was only RUs that were fitted with Gresleys, inc some that became RB(s) with the addition of a buffet counter. (Dia 23 and 23a IIRC, without my books to check) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2015 Cheers mate. That helps and clears up my smattering of knowledge of MK1 catering stock. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2015 There's a thread on here somewhere about B4/B5 bogie upgrades, were the diag 25 part of this? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2015 I hope 'coachbogie' picks up on this as he will take the pi** and then give me some info!!!!! I asked because in a battered old box at the bottom of another, bigger box, I found this coach amongst my mate's, the late Geoff Brewin, last bits and pieces of stuff from his loft. The coach was/is perfect in BR maroon but the OO B1 bogies were trashed and I have rebuilt them. However, I would like to give it the correct ones for 1962 - 64 if it was built then? If it was a later build I might well give it B5s in EM for my 'transition DCC plank'. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No wonder this confused me at work as Dia 25 is a production RKB (AH502) and not a RB They were built with BR1s (presumably the HD version) rather than BR2s. All but 1501 were rebogied with B5 both ends; AFAIK 1965 is right for the introduction of B5s Having found Longworth only 1552/53 were allocated to the southern region; from delivery in 1961 to 1969 when they went to the Western Region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2015 No wonder this confused me at work as Dia 25 is a production RKB (AH502) and not a RB They were built with BR1s (presumably the HD version) rather than BR2s. All but 1501 were rebogied with B5 both ends; AFAIK 1965 is right for the introduction of B5s Having found Longworth only 1552/53 were allocated to the southern region; from delivery in 1961 to 1969 when they went to the Western Region. Ah sorry mate. Should have been more careful with the heading as RKB! May I ask what Longworth is please? Most useful information and the BR1s will do then. I can run this on my layout without too much 'licence', especially as there were plenty of WR diversions over the SR during fllooding around Exeter &, Tiverton Jn in the early 60s. Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2015 There's a thread on here somewhere about B4/B5 bogie upgrades, were the diag 25 part of this? Mike. Don't know for sure, but presumably they were given priority for getting B5s as they would often be working the Deltic-hauled ECML expresses which were formed of the then new Mk 2/2a coaches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 There's a thread on here somewhere about B4/B5 bogie upgrades, were the diag 25 part of this? Mike. Also this one about Gresley bogies on Mk1 catering vehicles, which mentions B4/B5 at the end: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/97875-coach-y-question/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 May I ask what Longworth is please? Possibly this tome: https://www.waterstones.com/book/br-mark-1-and-mark-2-coaching-stock/hugh-longworth/9780860936503 Can be obtained for a somewhat cheaper price elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Possibly this tome: https://www.waterstones.com/book/br-mark-1-and-mark-2-coaching-stock/hugh-longworth/9780860936503 Can be obtained for a somewhat cheaper price elsewhere. Thats the one. Every coach nut should have that and the Ashley Butlin disposals books (which are luckily cheaper!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2015 I am not enough of a nut to pay that sort of price. However I shall search for a pre used volume. Thanks everyone. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub45565 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Digging this topic back up from a few weeks back, as I'm about to sort myself out and crack on with my conversion of a Bachmann RU to an RKB with Comet sides. I have the Parkin book, and photo suppliment, but not the Longworth one. Is it worth getting hold of? Does it include a lot more than the Parkin book? I had assumed that covering both Mk1s and Mk2s (which are too late for me to need to consider) the Mk1 info would be thinner. Going to my Parkin book last night to remind myself about the D25 reminded me that there isnt a lot of info in there! Some nice interior shots, but nothing to cover, for example, the bogies used, or external details. My variant is aimed at the Thames Clyde when first brought into use on that service in the latter part of 1960. (edited as he is Parkin not Larkin...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub45565 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 To answer my own question, having found a copy of the Longworth book at a reasonably price, there is a very useful birds eye view of the interior layout for the RKB which is not included in Parkin's book, and clarification on the use of B1 bogies from new. Looks like the undeframe and roof vent detailing will have to be taken as is from the Comet instructions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Here is a roof view and a side view: 42_RKB-roof_Exeter_JAN-68-close by Robert Carroll, on Flickr E1526_MoorSt by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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