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A tale of two Hornby Super Detail ‘Britannias’, plus a Clan (Part 2)


Silver Sidelines

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This Post is a continuation of my recent foray into Hornby Super Detail Britannias https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/25039-a-tale-of-two-Hornby-super-detail-‘britannias’-plus-a-clan-part-1/.

 

Back in 2014 Hornby sold off a lot of Diamond Jubilee boxed sets.  These included 70000 Britannia in ‘Special Duties’ livery.  This was Britannia’s preserved livery as featured in 2012 when Prince Charles was a passenger and included an Early Emblem and the original ‘dangerous’ pattern smoke deflectors.  The model also featured a speedometer drive which Britannia itself gained around 1956.   My Hornby model also had fluted coupling rods which on the prototype had been changed to solid rods in the early 1950s.

 

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Hornby R3094 Diamond Jubilee Train Pack

 

In a past Blog Post in 2014 I described overpainting the cab roof of the Special Duties model and backdating the overhead warning plates.https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/13640-shades-of-green-–-Hornby-britannia-r3094/

 

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My Britannia ‘Special Duties’ with repainted cab roof back in 2014

 

I had tried to convince myself that the combination of overhead warning plates, speedometer drive, ‘dangerous’ deflectors and Early Emblem might have coexisted in the 1950s.  David Hey https://davidheyscollection.myshopblocks.com/ did not agree and the model really needed BR (LMR) pattern deflectors and a tender with a Late Crest. 

 

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Britannia in 1961 with London Midland Region pattern smoke deflectors (Courtesy Keith Long)

 

After my big bid for Morning Star mentioned in the previous Post I had another bid on some bits from Hornby ‘Clive of India’.  I was attracted by the prospect of some BR (LMR) pattern deflectors but as a bonus I was able to salvage a front step, large dome, some sand boxes and rear cab supports all for Morning Star.

 

Replacing Britannia’s ‘dangerous’ smoke deflectors with the BR (LMR) pattern from the donor was slow and fiddly.  Flexing the deflectors broke the glued joints between the deflectors and the dummy metal supports at the front of the smoke box.  Gently pulling the deflectors away from the smoke box eventually parted the top ‘pin’ fastening which pokes into the side of the smoke box.  In two cases this had not been glued, in two cases it had been well glued and I snapped the pin.  I finished up removing an intact fixing pin from a redundant deflector and gluing it back onto a deflector that I was keeping.  The bottom fixings into the footplate were the most difficult to separate and much time was spent with a small screw driver and craft knife poking around beneath the footplate.  Refitting is straightforward, the front metal fixings were loose fitted into their respective openings in the smoke box and only glued to the inside of the deflectors after the deflectors had been firmly fixed top and bottom.

 

Whilst modifying Morning Star and against my better judgement I acquired a ‘cheap’ model of Clan McLeod.  It was not quite as described!  Coincidently I had some etched plates for Clan Stewart.  A quick trawl of Flickr showed that 72009 Clan Stewart kept a tender with Early Emblem (with overhead warning plates) into the 1960s.  Also like most of its sister engines, it retained fluted coupling rods for its whole life.

 

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72009 Clan Stewart in July 1961 (Courtesy of Brian Townsley)

 

I had a plan, I would rebadge 72008 as 72009.  I could then swap tenders and rods between ‘Britannia’ and ‘Clan McLeod’ (that was) and I would have reasonable 1960s representations of two more engines.

 

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Hornby Super Detail Clan McLeod alias Clan Stewart

 

The more astute readers will know that on Hornby Clan McLeod’s model, the top smoke box lamp iron has been lowered.  However from studying pictures of the prototype, Clan Stewart’s top lamp iron was only lowered when it gained its Late Crest, around 1963.  A modification that I have parked for a future occasion.

 

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Hornby Britannia ex R3094 Train Pack with BR(LMR) smoke deflectors

 

Returning to ‘Britannia’ there was one final job to carry out.  I would over paint the yellow axle boxes in black.  I think another good outcome.  Mind you I do wonder about the sand box covers.

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Good to see you posting Ray, it's reassuring to see that Longsheds is still in action.

 

I always peek curiously at what's going on in the background of your loco shots. The viaduct in the last photos does look good. I was going to ask about its provenance, but a search shows that you explained its origin (Metcalfe) to me on July 19, 2015!  

 

 

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3 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Good to see you posting Ray, it's reassuring to see that Longsheds is still in action.

 

 

Cheers Mikkel, life is trundling along I would have said much as usual.  However the weather seems more extreme and less predictable.  Twelve blackcurrant bushes and only four berries this yearl.  A number of our other 'usual' crops are not progressing - might it be the cold at night?

 

Regards  Ray

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Four berries on 12 bushes? That qualifies for a meagre harvest!

 

May here was unusually wet, everything is very lush. I don't recall ever seeing the forests so green. Or maybe I'm just noticing them more, after all that time cooped up inside.

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, Mikkel said:

 

May here was unusually wet, ..

 

 

May here too was unseasnably dark wet and cold and that ruined a lot of potential new plants. The weather then 'flippped' and June has been very dry.  We are now being told that reservoirs are emptying fast and that we should conserve water.  However whilst temperatures soar during the day, night time temperatures are frequently decidely chilly.  Not good for food production.

 

Regards Ray

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This looks to have turned out well Ray.

 

I never really understood why they built the Clans, rather than another 10 Britannias which ought to have been cheaper and saved keeping extra parts. Unless there were some lines in Scotland that couldn't take the Britannia's weight?

 

I've been wrestling with a bargain buy "Duke of Gloucester" of late, nearly there although I need some proper plates, and been using your blog for reference, for which many thanks!

 

Best wishes,

 

John.

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4 hours ago, John Tomlinson said:

.. Unless there were some lines in Scotland that couldn't take the Britannia's weight?

 

Thanks John, good luck with the Duke.

 

I should know but cannot be certain.  I believe Clans were used on the Port Road but Scots were no allowed.  Britannias made it to Stranraer but only down the coast from Ayr.  Not I think along the Port Road.  It seems backwards logic to make a special locomotive purchase just to traverse two or three lightly used routes that probably didn't turn a profit.

 

Regards Ray

 

 

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7 hours ago, John Tomlinson said:

I never really understood why they built the Clans, rather than another 10 Britannias which ought to have been cheaper and saved keeping extra parts. Unless there were some lines in Scotland that couldn't take the Britannia's weight?


There is a topic on here discussing the Britannias. It drifted (as happens!) to include discussion of exactly why the Clans were designed and built. The question was first asked in this post, and discussion followed:


https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/156580-br-“britannia”-standards/&do=findComment&comment=4050631

 

 

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