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  1. Even more lead soldered into chassis effectively both in front of, and behind motor. This , with the liquid lead in the body, has combined to give the sort of tractive effort in keeping with a rebuilt Scot. The profile of the Scots has landed. The height from rail head to platform is 4 ft 8 inches. I’m trying to work out the actual depth of the running plate , as to my eye the Hornby interpretation is too shallow. There is no actual measurement shown in the diagrams for that particular aspect. I’m therefore trying to convert the sizes from the working drawings, shown in imperial . High level motor and gears have landed so Galatea about to be motorised.
  2. Well more liquid lead and now lead strip soldered into chassis , a seriously heavy locomotive and now hauling the required coaching stock. I recall years ago an article in MRJ about 460s and problems with haulage. I now have a loco that can haul my seven eight coach trains….im not sure it would handle scale length west coast expresses on Iain’s Camden or that other West Coast magnum opus Carlisle. That has given me an idea I will ask Mike Edge what he has used for that latter layout and how he tackles haulage. I will report back in due course.
  3. Iain your timing is uncanny , I’ve just spent this afternoon adding liquid lead to 46120. This has a portescap motor so as stated it’s running is fantastic…however haulage is another matter. Having waited a few hours for the superglue to cure….yes I have had previously, globs of liquid lead and uncured glue drop into motor and chassis…..air blue…anyway.lots of lead front and rear but very little where the motor sits over centre drivers. The result for the moment it’s struggling up my mini Lickey incline ( exit from fiddle yard ) with four coaches….Bachmann 45506 on same train romped up. I will revisit tomorrow possibly adding lead strip into the chassis itself. The rtr boys solve this by often encasing their motor in a weighted outer cradle and as mentioned now adopting metal running plates, even then some of their creations still require extra weighting. The joy of our hobby! Whilst waiting I also wheeled the comet chassis for 45699. This will have a high level gearbox and one of Chris’ s large motors. It does indeed have some power having used one recently Best wishes Brian
  4. No such luck with the Scots In respect of loco profile however just ordered a copy from well known auction site.
  5. Hello Stephen, in fact I do have some of those profiles, most of the black five series for a start…I need to check just what I have got, as ever the answer can be staring you in the face! Genius spotting the blinking obvious
  6. Interesting thoughts about the toxicity of some of our model materials. I’ve often dremelled the liquid lead and superglue mix, removing it from unwanted cavities in the loco body. The fumes alone are unwelcome. In respect of LMS loco drawings, I do envy the Eastern modellers and the Isinglass collection. I have the Roche book and Ian Beatties LMS and BR set printed by Bradford Barton. I also refer to as many photos as possible, and then still manage to get it wrong!
  7. I’ve just been examining my Royal Scot’s. In both cases Hornby bodies. The first replacement chassis was as a result of Mazak rot causing the gear holding to come adrift, my subsequent attempt to repair rendered the whole chassis U/s. I therefore don’t have a Hornby chassis to compare how they achieved the match with their tender ride height. I have compared the Hornby body with Ian Beatties drawing in LMSR locomotives. The Hornby cab is too shallow compared with this drawing, assuming the accuracy of same. My mainline bodied Galatea has just been placed on 46120 chassis and matches the ride height of tenders. Ok Jube cabs are different from Scots…interesting though the rear drivers foul the mainline recesses in the cab area. I’m getting quite a collection of LMS express 460 s. I Just wish I had a layout like Camden to display / run them just seeing them now on my workbench is still quite a sight
  8. Hello Iain yes the ride height is apparent in the photo, 46120 is paired with a DJH tender. The dilemma, as the cylinders and motion bracket set the ride height at the front of the loco so any reduction in height under the cab either by filing the frames or removing plastic under the cab dosn’t solve the problem. I have read a number of views on this, possibly, on your thread, about the correlation between loco and tender. This could vary given the weight when full of coal and water. In respect of loco weight I have yet to test the haulage capacity of 46120. It’s running is exemplary, as you would expect from a portescap…haulage though? as with any plastic body transferring the power of the motor to the track still requires careful weighting. My method of adding weight to my locos , liquid lead in the body cavity secured by runny superglue not pva. ( Still a risky part of the operation..small holes around handrails for example and superglue spoils your best paint job..and in some cases best pair of jeans) The other method soldering lead strip into the frames, not great if you want an open frame under the boiler. I note Hornby are now adding metal running plates to their locos. The renumbered latter Bachmann jubilee has this feature and I can confirm it really assists traction. How is your fantastic model of Camden progressing? I find it inspiring. best wishes Brian
  9. Slight mishap whilst fitting valve gear to the Scot. I had fitted a rivet too tightly between one of the eccentric rods and expansion link. The Scot was merrily being run in around the layout….then sudden stop. On examination the rod had snapped off. Cylinders and valve gear/ motion bracket removed. The rod / link removed from bracket. The rod repaired by soldering a new end at correct length using undamaged rod as a guide. New link added to rod and tested fully to see if rivet allows full movement. It does, so assembly again added to the bracket…onto loco and away.
  10. 45699 and 46120 pose on my workbench, 45697 in storage box awaits chassis and motor,
  11. Returning to my LMS 460 projects another Royal Scot nearing completion, Hornby body comet chassis but in this case a Portescap motor… A number of jubilee projects. Mainline bodies are relatively cheap compared to the updated Bachmann versions. It does limit which locos can be modelled though as Mainline is the long firebox type. I want 45565 Victoria on my roster so a Bachmann has been renumbered and named. One of my current roster will become 45572 Eire another Bachmann renumber. The donor loco is attached to a Fowler tender, this will be paired with the Mainline loco body which will become Achilles. Lastly I don’t tend to model locos that are preserved. I will though be adding 45699 Galatea a regular on the NE/SW line and features in a fantastic run in Terry Esserys book on firing at Saltley. Mainline body, comet chassis and high level gears and motor.
  12. Good evening Farren. I’ve always liked the limo cab on the Fowler 264t, surprised Hornby havnt added that variation to their range over the years. In my case I altered one years ago with the aid of Perseverance etched sides, a number were shedded at Saltley, my local shed. I note your model Jubillees, I am currently modelling a number of ex LMS 460s. A Royal Scot using my usual combination of Hornby body and comet chassis. In this case. It has a portescap motor. It purrs along. In addition I have renumbered a Bachmann jubilee short firebox to 45565 Victoria.This locomotive is a favourite of mine. Two mainline bodies are awaiting chassis builds. One will be 45699 Galatea, the other as yet undecided, I don’t normally model preserved locomotives, but Galatea was a regular through my modelled station, and features in a memorable trip in Terry Essery’s book on firing at Saltley. I was going to number the latter as 45572 Eire another regular, but the mainline body is a long firebox version so one of my other short version locos will be renamed/ numbered. There is a great article in a current magazine by Tim Shackleton on how he has improved the latter Bachmann model Kashmir in LMS red to represent Eire in 1949 still in crimson but with early BR numbers. I fear another jubilee will have to be purchased and the mainline body assume an appropriate identity. ( I’ve just seen the price of the current Bachmann model hence my decision to renumber name a current member of my fleet. Lastly nice lining on the flatiron another type that may yet be added to my roster best wishes Brian
  13. Bit of an update the locomotive sold to Ribblesdale cement is still with us it appears
  14. A 1950/60 OS map of Water Orton showing the location both of the Minworth and Hams Hall systems to the village A look at the present day map will show the havoc the M42/ Toll road and now Hs2 has bought to the area. The little hamlet of Gilson, bottom right hand corner, has been wiped from the earth!
  15. Returning to Hams Hall, I have failed to unearth details of the diesels on the Internet. There is a lot of information concerning the steam fleet not least on the Warwickshire Railways site. I then remembered I had bought many moons ago an edition of Railway Bylines which had an article on the system. A search of my mags and books revealed the copy Volume 4 issue 9 August 1999.A fantastic article by Adrian Booth is inside. It includes the list of every locomotive used on site attached. It also reveals why info on the diesels may be rarer, unlike some of their steam counterparts none were preserved. The diesels left in 1989 bringing to an end rail operation on the site which closed completely in 1992
  16. The new model of the Stationmasters house witnesses the passing of the B1 and southern stock August 1962
  17. Hello John I really enjoyed building the Fell from Mikes range, initially fearing it would be beyond me. A combination of a very well designed kit, and improving my skills, made it an enjoyable and successful project. ,
  18. Thanks both, Mike has just replied that the yellow CEBGB locomotive is an English Electric 060 DHand he has no immediate plans to add it, or it’s 040 sister to his range. In respect of the jackshaft shunter, I had intended to try Mikes kit for the LMS variant 12032 onwards series. This was just as a modelling challenge rather than needing one for my Midlands based layout. The discovery of a near relative having been used locally, has now added to my desire to model one
  19. Whilst awaiting confirmation looked up Yorkshire Engine company products and this appears to be one of their Janus types, so named after the Roman deity who looked both ways.
  20. Thanks Barry, I’ve just sent an enquiry to Michael as suggested best wishes Brian
  21. Good morning Michael can you assist me and confirm the type of diesel shunter shown alongside the RSH tank engine ?


    very much appreciated best wishes Brian


    1. Michael Edge

      Michael Edge

      English Electric 0-6-0DH, no plans at the moment to include this or its 0-4-0 cousins in our kit range.

    2. 46256


      Thank you Michael


      best wishes Brian

  22. Hello Barry so it is a Yorkshire engine type ?
  23. Hello John thanks for the information concerning the Southern region coach set. I have now obtained five coaches from the recommended source. These however have been bought based on which design I like , rather than trying to replicate the actual train shown . I really like the Maunsell stock over the Mk 1 s with Mr Bullieds coming in second. The mk 1 in unlined green is not one of my favourite liveries for these vehicles….sorry to those who disagree. I think it’s the fact I never saw them in that livery so the rose tint of nostalgia isn’t present. One of the five though is a green Mk 1.Three Maunsells, including restaurant, and a bullied will make up the set on my layout, coupled with the B 1 best wishes Brian
  24. On the subject of industrials I’ve tried to discover the make of the yellow diesel shunter at Hams Hall alongside the RSH tank. Can anyone assist? I have discovered more interesting facts however an ex WD Armstrong Whitworth 060 jackshaft shunter was moved to Hams Hall in 1966. It was cut up on site there in 1967. A picture of the loco
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