RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted January 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2015 It looks as if Oxford Diecast have now also started producing wagons.... They say they have a new level of detail has anyone seen them? http://www.oxfordrail.com/index.html ...."The new Oxford Rail Standard RCH 12 Ton Mineral wagon boasts finely engraved body and underframe detail plus NEM couplings. The initial 6 private owner wagons herald a new level of detail for the most discerning of model railway enthusiasts....." Regards, Neal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thanks, although I don't model 4mm the Fears of Staines will be a must have purchase, we used to get our coal from them. I remember one of those super large model wagons in their window beside Staines Central station. The models look nice, but possibly going to make the same mistake as Lionheart has in 7mm, no monkey tail to release the bottom doors. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It is shame that there is not a BR liveried version. Would there be a market for an unpainted wagon? Gordon A Bristol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Bit of shock in the first paragraph - 7 plank wagon in 4mm - £99.95 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Bit of shock in the first paragraph - 7 plank wagon in 4mm - £99.95 The £99.95 figure refers to their model of the Adams radial. The wagons are £8.95 each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted January 23, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2015 Anyone seen a review sample? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2015 There are a lot of detailed photos on MRE - right at the bottom of the page after the cars and the Hornby interview http://www.mremag.com/news/bulletin.asp . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 They look to be nicely detailed models. One thing that struck me, though, was that there appeared to be only a single, off-set, bottom door. I'd always thought that such doors were always in pairs, one either side of the centre line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwell Hall Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Looks like there is an extra corner plate at the bottom of the actual corner plate - definitely not standard and shouldn't be there. It would be a bit of a b....r to remove from a painted model as well. The buffers look nice though and it will be interesting to see the standard of the paint and lettering. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Do you think they built the underframe from A** components? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2015 The £99.95 figure refers to their model of the Adams radial. The wagons are £8.95 each. There are some pics of 7 plank and Oxfords packaging over on MREmag. I think Hattons are listing the Radial at £88.95. Will be interesting to see Hornby price, any bets that after full activity based costing, price increases in China the Hornby cost will work out at £87.95? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Looks like there is an extra corner plate at the bottom of the actual corner plate - definitely not standard and shouldn't be there. It would be a bit of a b....r to remove from a painted model as well. The buffers look nice though and it will be interesting to see the standard of the paint and lettering. Gerry I wonder if that represents a repair found on a 'preserved' (in the case of RCH minerals, 'preserved' generally means patched up and rotting away...) vehicle? As a patch up for a rusted out corner plate such a repair would make sense, but likely only as a one-off... The open lever guide is something I haven't seen on an RTR model before and that is interesting. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Oxfordrail wagons at £8.95 are cheaper than the latest Hornby private owner wagons which are £10.95 each. I wonder if the Arley Colliery wagon will be suitable for a model of the Severn Valley Railway. In my opinion the market for private owner wagons is already flooded with offerings from Hornby, Bachmann and Wessex Wagons. What I would like to see are some company owned wagons. If Oxfordrail produced some LSWR, SR and BR wagons there would be something for the Adams Radial to pull. At present Bachmann is not producing any pre-nationalisation company owned open wagons and Hornby has one LMS wagon in the Railroad range. The Bachmann BR open wagons are more expensive than the Oxfordrail private owner wagons. I hope that the Oxfordrail wagons will not be secured to the packaging with cross head screws like their cars. Yesterday I bought an Oxford Diecast Austin 7 Lipton van. I could not unscrew it and neither could the shop assistant at the hardware store. I managed to unscrew it after about half an hour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well, for those concerned about accuracy, I think Hornby PO wagons (and Dapol too) need to be considered carefully. I have had, and seen, examples of these that are mounted on 10' underframes with lengthened bodies to suit. I can't say that ALL Hornby (or Dapol) POs are like this, but they are still being produced. Hatton's show pictures of stock next to a ruler, so this can be checked. Perhaps Hornby will up their game a bit now. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 On the other hand, Cambrian, ABS, David Geen and Gramodels each do a variety of LSWR wagons in different materials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It looks as if Oxford Diecast have now also started producing wagons.... They say they have a new level of detail has anyone seen them? http://www.oxfordrail.com/index.html ...."The new Oxford Rail Standard RCH 12 Ton Mineral wagon boasts finely engraved body and underframe detail plus NEM couplings. The initial 6 private owner wagons herald a new level of detail for the most discerning of model railway enthusiasts....." Regards, Neal. Surely they are moulded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Surely they are moulded? Yes; but the masters would have been engraved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Kernow have announced their price for the wagons..£8.50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Scottish Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Kernow have announced their price for the wagons..£8.50 Good on Oxford,I was staggered to go into model shop and find Bachmann pipe wagon@20 quid.looks like Oxford can do wagons for 8.95.look similar in detail to me,infact the 7 planks have more decoration,.interesting.to see the real level of Chinese pricing, rather than the level Bachmann would prefer us to believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It is shame that there is not a BR liveried version. Would there be a market for an unpainted wagon? Gordon A Bristol I should think so, as isn't it being generally reported that early BR and steam - diesel transition periods are the most popular modelling period. In 7mm I assisted Lionheart with photos for a heavily weathered PO in earlish BR non repainted appearance. I never saw one, they sold out before I saw one at a show. But, it is very difficult to get right as the metalwork should have been repainted when they had a General repair, on body and frame. Paul Bartlett PS - Corner plate, I have several NCB internal user wagons with similar modification, I agree a very late adaption The springs are horrible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would buy an unpainted one. It would be a lot easier to repaint as a railway owned wagon like an LSWR or SR wagon. I remember when Wrenn only produced private owner wagons how I had to strip down the transfers before I could repaint them in BR livery. I should think it would be more difficult to strip the markings off a new printed private owner wagon before repainting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The better RTR stuff gets, the worse tension locks look The end stanchions looks like a separate part. Might just be an effect of the lighting/photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The images on the Kernow site suggest they have three link couplings included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I hope that the Oxfordrail wagons will not be secured to the packaging with cross head screws like their cars. I hope they will be. Free self-tapping screws for the spares box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2015 I remember when Wrenn only produced private owner wagons how I had to strip down the transfers before I could repaint them in BR livery. I should think it would be more difficult to strip the markings off a new printed private owner wagon before repainting. A more authentic solution would be to "distress" the original finish with a fibreglass brush, kill the brightness with a mucky wash, simulate the odd unpainted replacement plank and add BR markings. However, if they could manage a good representation of the early BR painted metal + unpainted wood "livery", I'd snap up a boxful ! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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