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8 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

Only just heard about this via the BBC news. My sympathy to all affected and my hopes that such an event never happens again. Not sure what else to say, I am lost for words. 

 

Roy

Same here - heard this earlier today and it stunned me.  I'll be donating via. the JustGiving site tomorrow morning.

ER had both, I doubt than they kept then together so you were likely to have a mix. Without handy access to Longworth I cannot confirm the exact ratio but at least 2/3rds of the TSOs would have been Mk2Ds. 

 

The Mk2Fs were latter additions to enable all remaining non-a/c stock to be cascades or withdrawn e.g. Various Mk2a, a/b Mk1 non kitchen dining cars  (RSO, RUO 10xx and 36xx) and Mk1 Met-cam Pullman

Apologies for asking so many questions!  It sounds as though it would be reasonable to run a 2d TSO and a 2f version in the same rake.  What was the situation with BSOs af far as you're aware?  Presumably a 2d version would be more accurate in a rake which already includes 2 2fs (FO and TSO)?

Most of the ER HST fleet would have been delivered by early 1979 and the only loco hauled day stock would have been the York semi fasts. 

 

The ECML Mk2 a/c stock was mostly MK2Ds with some later Mk2F strengthening lots of TSO's (and possibly FO's). I cannot see any Mk2Es allocated from new.

 

The sets varied but by the end of the 70's it could be BSO, TSOs, RB/RU(B), FO, FK, BFK  with the occasional BG instead.

Might I ask, for clarity, whether you're saying that the TSOs were 2d or 2f, please?  I have Hornbu 2d TSOs and a BSO, but will I need to replace them with the Bachmann 2f versions for accuracy?

These were Mk2d build and Bachmann are currently only producing Mk2f.

Thanks.

I think its back to the old Airfix Mk2s for the Mk2d isnt it?

Rather a contrast - ex-Airfix for the BFK, new Bachmann for the FO, and Hornby 2d TSOs.

Do we know if Bachmann are producing the BFK or the FK?

RFBs weren't coverted until the late 1980's. The B/G version is as preserved.

Thanks!

I take it that Mk 2f RFBs, as modelled recently by Bachmann, weren't used on the ECML in this period?

If they want great layouts to look at, they either have to give them more time or allow what missenden have done.

Indeed.  They need at least 5 days to make a reasonable attempt with baseboards of that size.

I ordered an LNER example, but, sadly, one of the smokebox door clasps is broken-off, so I'll be emailing tomorrow to arrange a replacement (if there are any left).