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Thank you and yes it is Upnor Castle. Wolsey works would explain the way its built (nothing wrong with Wolsey Works items) by the builder. Thanks very much I can now look at some photos and see what I can do with it.
Thank you very much
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Thank you all and I will try and contact the owner via his club. Am I correct in thinking that Wrightlines kits are difficult to obtain or am I getting them confused with another company.
Just to give my other enquiree another push, here is a loco from Ebay made from an etched kit which arrived yesterday
Main parts are soldered but as you can see some parts have been glued (in normal viewing the white deposits are not so notacible) Once I have a couple of other locos running I will take it apart and solder everything together
A finer mesh will be found and perhapps a few extra bits added, handrails etc.
Chassis just stuck to the body and the lower sideframes are plastic, I will look at a few real life photos for some inspiration. Wheelbase 42mm appx
Any idea of both the prototype (if any) and the kit maker please
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Still trying to get that code 100 slip silky smooth, Its had 3 pairs of stock rails and the switch rails have been altered 3 times. I should have got a template made by using the brass rubbing method. Still the Peco insulated rail joiners work well as hinges and I found a pair of SMP slip tiebars. Will try and iron out the 2 little glitches this afternoon.
I needed to get away from that slip for a bit, just to clear my mind and see the remaining problems afresh so I started another complex yesterday.
A 3 way with an additional turnout, built to 00-SF gauge using Timber Tracks sleeper strip and Exactoscale normal 3 bolt and special chairs
The common crossings were made up, two had to be built as one unit. I think from memory the polarity of both crossings is always the same, the units are electrically isolated from other rails as I use the Exactoscale plastic fishplates. Will just have to wait and see if my memory is correct
One untidy bench, using the special switch and check rail chairs needs a bit of forethought to be used when threading the chairs on. The long stock rail is to be built as 1 long rail, with 3 notches cut into it to represent rail joints, under these etchet brass fishplates will be soldered so all the different chairs will have to be slid on before the fish plates are soldered on.
Still out in the garden now as there are plenty of jobs that need doing.
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Looks like either a scratch build or a major kit bash, using parts from Wills 2251 and 9400 locos. Gibsons do mainframes, no idea about cylinders though.
Keep a search on Ebay for a k's one and change the chassis
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George
Great to see the models this side of the water
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Ron
I cut the double sided tape very thinly (less than 2mm wide) and run a line of it at both sleepers ends. I also superglue the switch chairs to the rail. Then flood the double sided tape with white spirit when soft carefully peel off the paper from the sleepers. If the odd sleeper moves then just re-adjust it when glueing down
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Ron
I would echo Martins suggestion and your initial findings that 00-SF is the best way forward for better looking and reliable running trackwork if using 00 gauge stock.
Looking at you modelling ability I can't see that you will have too many problems in building reliable track. In fact I am looking forward to see how you overcome certain building challanges
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Ron Thats very technical, but clear. I would suggest to Ian that he downloads Templot if he is interested in building turnouts, as he can very easily print out plans of various sized turnouts to enable him to see the difference in size of various switch and crossing combinations.
Most modellers do not have the space for formations of C8's to D12's. As I said, I am looking forward very much to the track building part of this thread, which will look stunning with these large flowing turnouts
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Hi, Ian
The layout has to have hand-built trackwork, as the complex curved multiple turnouts and slips cannot be reproduced in any other way. Most are C8 through to D12
The GN Goods Yard will be constructed first using C+L / Exactoscale components
Still a bit of construction work needed on the GN Warehouse before trackwork is started
Ron
Ron
Can't wait for this to start
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It has nearly been 2 weeks since my last post
I still have the code 100 double slip on the bench
Its starting to get interesting again, as its so different to building scale turnouts and crossings.
Well I have had 3 locos going through the diamond, and one after fitting the first slip. I have found that I made a mistake in the length of the switch rails, so the next step is to replace both curved stock rails. Has to be done in daylight because I need my bench vice which is in the garage and need daylight to see clearly. I also need to put some thought into the obtuse (K) crossing check rails.
An 00-SF B8 GWR turnout is also on the go
Getting as close to GWR practice as I can with the chairs available, still some to be fitted.
Wednesday after a pleasent lunch sightseeing on the Thames (birthday present from daughter and son in law) my wife put up with me going on the DLR (yes its taken me this long to have a ride). Loved the turnouts where both the V and switch blades move.
Also downloaded Templot 2 today, looks like a whole new learning experance.
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Me and technology, I guess it truly is a multi quote.
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As a young, impatient and impetuous teenager, I made my one and only K's kit, a Coal Tank. It never ran properly despite many re-builds and finally burnt out the motor and bent a coupling rod. It then proceeded to move further and faster than it ever had before, landing with a satisfying crunch in the middle of the road about 30 ft from my bedroom window where I left it to be repeatedly run over by the passing traffic......
There are probably still a few bits embedded in the surface of Westbourne Avenue in Great Lever, Bolton if you need any spares....
JF
Thats a shame as I have one to build, but if the chassis is too naff I have a London Road chassis waiting to be built.As a young, impatient and impetuous teenager, I made my one and only K's kit, a Coal Tank. It never ran properly despite many re-builds and finally burnt out the motor and bent a coupling rod. It then proceeded to move further and faster than it ever had before, landing with a satisfying crunch in the middle of the road about 30 ft from my bedroom window where I left it to be repeatedly run over by the passing traffic......
There are probably still a few bits embedded in the surface of Westbourne Avenue in Great Lever, Bolton if you need any spares....
JF
As a young, impatient and impetuous teenager, I made my one and only K's kit, a Coal Tank. It never ran properly despite many re-builds and finally burnt out the motor and bent a coupling rod. It then proceeded to move further and faster than it ever had before, landing with a satisfying crunch in the middle of the road about 30 ft from my bedroom window where I left it to be repeatedly run over by the passing traffic......
There are probably still a few bits embedded in the surface of Westbourne Avenue in Great Lever, Bolton if you need any spares....
JF
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Keith
I thought they were the Mk2, but I believe they did at least 2 sizes.
Here is my 3F bodyline kit
Waiting for transfers, coal and window glass. Has etched rear window grills (Mainly Trains) and front lamp irons. Has a driner/fireman on the other side, one of those whitemetal top half only figures (why dont they still do them for tank locos or do all tank locos have cabs clear of motors)
Should realy put a set of decent wheels and coupling roads on.
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Golly. I don't expect to have anything to offer threads like this, but, er.....
Elliott Sterling Miller was my Father-in-law. His father was the pit-clerk at Pegswood between the wars.
I must have made and decorated this in about 1976. No handbrake - but it does have the basic sprung 3-links, even if the links are largely missing!
Ian
Is that the 7 plank PO wagon and can I see the GE sand wagon in the background
My K's K class albeit with a non Ks motor is below
Co-coincidently I posted on my blog here about this class and kit only this week.
Graham
Just goes to prove that they can be made into nice models
K’s Kits on Carmarthen Junction
Like many other “baby boomers”, I was dissatisfied with limited range of RTR models available in the 1960s and 1970s. I began to assemble whatever relevant kits I could afford to buy (and found that this aspect of the hobby was very satisfying). My first whitemetal loco kit was a Wills 1854 class 0-6-0PT, completed in 1967. It’s still going strong, as is its original X04 motor. My next one was a K’s “Terrier”, which one of my workmates sold me in 1968. I completed it as GWR 5 “Portishead”. This is also still working well. In 1975, I made an 8-week visit to the UK and purchased a large number of kits, including several K’s locos and autocoach. I assembled these over the next few years. From time to time, I have supplemented these with other K’s models – some bought as kits, others fully assembled, requiring some restoration.
1. Locomotives
0-4-2T 4833.
Seen here with an Airfix autocoach, this model has plastic–centred wheels on D axles. I modifed the trailing wheel assembly with a simple spring suspension, to ensure that the front driving wheels continue to maintain contact with the rails. It still uses its original K’s Mk.2 motor.
4833 & Airfix autocoach, Carmarthen Junction Mk 2, 1997.JPG
on Carmarthen Junction, 7 Apr 2013.JPG
4. Reflections
Many of the whitemetal models have become available as RTR ones – something undreamed of when I built most of them. Nevetheless, the experience of building them has taught me so many skills that have subsequently used in kitbashing and scratchbuilding to create models that were otherwise unavailable or unaffordable.
I still enjoy using all of the old models described above. I built them to last!
Rosies boss
What a lovely collection, and all working. Dare not own up to how many I have to build/rebuild. What are the small motors you are using, any chance of a photo or two please
Thanks for showing us your photos
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Super model of the Johnson, I have never tried using a tender drive, now come on lads dont be shy lets have some photos not only of your locos but wagons and coaches
I have a few of the bodyline kits which take the Hornby Dublo R1 chassis, Now do I just swap the wheels for Romfords and try a Mainly Trains coupling rod set or use one of the Wills etched FC102 chassis I have. A Southeastern Finecast one would be better as it has brake gear but I dont have any
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I must put my hand up and say thatI have a very soft spot for N C Keyser (K's) kits, as said on another thread by someone else, these kits have come in for a lot of un-justified critcism, both on this and other sites.
Clearly they are not up to standards we expect from todays kits. But please remember that in their day (60's & 70's) they were at the forefront of model kits.
Un-like other companies products they were complete kits (except glue and paint), secondly they were sometimes half the price of other kits, once the wheels motor etc were bought. And not only of types of loco not available from the RTR market (remember Triang, Hornby Dublo and Trix) but far more highly detailed. Keyser brought affordability of a whitemetal kit to a wider selection of modellers
We have seen a super thread of a Beyer Garratt build in the not to distant past and I thought it was time to show off what we have done with ours
Here is a couple of my models
The left hand Terrier was made and hand painted by someone else, has the HMP2 motor which in this instance works fine and has the newer D type plastic wheels.
The other Terrier is a rebuild of a S/H model I got off Ebay. Has the earlier pre-quartered wheels and Mk 2 motor, I have added etched rear window grills and guard irons from brass. Waiting for coal in the bunker, driver and fireman to hide the motor and window glass. Again given it has an old 3 pole motor it runs quite well.
The wagon is the SR 5 plank open (number ficticious). I have removed the internal fixing lugs and fitted etched W irons. I will alter the couplings to some other less conspicuous type.
I would be interested in seeing other built models either built as designed or with upgraded bodies / chassis etc
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A couple of weeks since I last updated my workbench and just not had the time.
3 way in P4 finished and collected.
I also completed a P4 turnout using 100% Exactoscale parts, but either deleted or never took a photo.
Latest project is trying to build a replacement double slip in code 100 flatbottom rail (forgot how much metal needs to be filed off with this size rail
Thanks to a bit of help from Martin Wynn I made a template, but forgot to ask the width in the center between the rails. Now when it came to start to fit all the parts it looked a bit thin. I requested the measurement and I need another 5mm width, so I will strip it down again and build it a bit wider.
Here is one I have had a problem with in 00 gauge, its the center part of a 5 turnout scissors complex
Before even thinking about building it I wanted to see if I could get the center crossing which is curved to work. I tried to build it in 00 gauge but struggled, partly due to the plan not having any rail end detail in the middle of the crossing, I just could not adjust the rail ends enough to get it to work.
After talking through the problem a few weeks ago with Len Newman, he told me it would work in P4, should work in EM but doubted if it would work in 00 gauge as the gaps in the rails within the crossing are too large. Thinking cap back on, if it should work in EM then it should work in 00-SF. I had a chat with the person who wants it and I said I had 2 problems (the plan needs to be in 00-SF and rail end details would help)
Well a revised plan followed in 00-SF and with rail end details, mk2 now works with 2 RTR tank locos and a scale chassis, not 100% silky smooth but as this is a test piece its working. I can now post it for trials with the persons own locos. As you can see the plan needs the sleepers tidying up, I am happy to do that initally in Templot, with the final adjustments by eye.
Now back to that double slip, but first up into the loft to see if I can find some code 100 plastic fishplates
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DaveHi John,
have you looked at my SR locos thread? (Link below) I'm building a U at the moment and I have discussed some of the differences between the various classes.
The SEF chassis is very good, and I guess it fits the SEF body kits well. I'm fitting it to a DJH body, and have had to make some small alterations.
All the best,
Dave.
Very nice work on the upgrade Matt,<br />Cheers, Dave.
I think I have been following it when it was on the older site, should have added "its nice to have 2 Mogul threads going at once"
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James a lot of care, I will probably go through that a bit later as Im sort of doing a video of rebuilding it bit by bit, so I can show a bit more detail and pretend I know what I'm talking about.
John, This is a Will's kit, with updated chassis, so its quite old, cheapest one I've seen go for in quite a long time, will have to keep an eye open for one more. I've given the chassis a run yesterday, although I seem to have an Issue in forward running, backwards is absolutely fine, all the motion runs smooth without motor / gears engaged... so I've got some head scratching to do... got a feeling it's something to do with motors pitch or angle.
Matt
Just re-read the thread and yes under the mention of DJH you do say its a SEF, the Moguls do come up on Ebay, its like everything getting it at the right price
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I have three of Wills U/N class locos I bought off Ebay (cheaply) that need rebuilding, thankfully Wills go for about a 3rd (well thats all I am prepared to pay)of what you paid for yours, your thread will be a great refference once I start
I recently got both J H Russells and Iain Beatie's books on SR locos so have no excuse not to make a start on atleast one. I must first look up the difference between the N, N1, U & U1 classes
Two of my locos have re-wheeled Hornby(Triang) chassis, one realy was a cheap, but managed to pick up a SEF updated etched chassis (with wheels ,gears & motor) again for very little. A Jamieson type chassis for these classes also came with some other bits so have a sort of reserve in hand.
Will watch this thread with interest
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Don thanks for the advice, at least its in 00 gauge where there is a bit more leeway
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A couple of photos of work to date on the 3 way
Working my way from right to left ensuring each of the 3 lines remain in gauge as some of the chairs have to be cut to shape
Just a few slide, crossing, and half chairs to fit along with the remaining check rail and tiebars remaining, should realy take the photos in better light to shaw up the chairs.
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Scratchbuilt SECR/SR/BR(S) stock
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Comet do a coach 6 wheel set of etched W irons, looking at the etches the center W iron has an internal bearing etch so you can cut of the pinpoint extended axle parts and let the wheels slide crossways