dantimmy

Anyone know if Dapol plan to re-release these models as everywhere is sold out?

Many thanks

Fantastic, I remember seeing Tim Ventons 'Clutton' on youtube and he talks about the lighting in a similar way

Quite ok but it would only be for your personal use as the photos are my copyright (and the words are mine too of course although i am happy to share both on here).

I can guarantee it will only be for personal use cheers

I hope everyone had a great Christmas. I have to say a massive thank you to everyone that has contributed to this thread, especially the stationmaster. I personally think the book would be a great idea ;-)

I'll try to upload a more detailed diagram of the layout soon. Stationmaster is it OK for me to copy and paste everything into a single word document so i have a hard copy in the highly probable case that my internet decides not to work

Wow, an excellent thread which having been out of the country I have only just caught up with.

 

The advice from Mike (Stationmaster) is to top-notch and on the button - but we would not have expected anything less! - I know where I will be heading when it comes to paying down the signals for Wharncliffe Junction.

 

However, I have a quick observation - I would move the Goods shed from the back road, generally the back road would be free for vehicle access and the Goods shed, could go onto the road next to the Platform.

 

Hope that does not add to the confusion!

 

Regards,

Neal.

I have been thinking about that, got to wait until next week (when i'm home) to see if i can make any changes

Updated. I think I will properly use a ground disc to control the exit from the sidings.

thanks beast, i do wonder where my head is sometimes lol

Anyway I have just spent the morning reviewing certain aspects and it would seem I have (if I do some demolition) the room to introduce a headshunt, which as said earlier can act as the trap

I look forward to your next topic

In regards to my layout I can have a 'siding' signal to allow traffic to leave the sidings and enter the main line. And the lines that branch off in the sidings will be controlled by ground discs??

thanks for all you help everyone, will re-read this later when I get home and make the nessicary changes etc.

Dantimmy

I think I am starting to get this now. The non shaded area is the area I will be working on with a future stretch on clear line up to a halt, with a junction after that.

If I wanted the up goods traffic to shunt into/ out of the yard is this correct? Can you have three on a post like this?

I haven't included the ground discs because I'll wait for your piece on them (save you typing it out twice) and for (e) would I need a stop to allow traffic to move from the goods shed/sidings to the main running line?

Regards

Dantimmy

Regrettably we have just had a power cut and I lost the half completed post for 'Subsidiary Signals' and to be honest am in no mood to chance my arm with it again tonight (we also had a power cut last night but it was in the small hours but I'm still wary of getting another and throwing the mains circuit board at the first passing S&SE van I see). So tonight's edition will be delayed until tomorrow - sorry.

No problem mate, hope everything gets sorted soon

Thats what I was thinking. So why do the GWR use additional signals and what are the reasons behind ground discs and their use?

dantimmy

this is all starting to make sense now. So in my layout I would only have distant signals to warn locomotives of the situation ahead (up/down the line from the actual visable layout). And they would be mounted below a stop signal, as in the picture?

thanks everyone I think I will keep both for the time being, just got to decide on which semaphores go where.

dantimmy

"Frequently local yards were serviced by trains from one direction only, the traffic could even pass on a service to "the junction" (right to left on your plan), be remarshalled and then return on a service which allows easier access to the yard (left to right on your plan) - removing the need for two crossovers. "

this part...

 

Yes, it's the trap, be wary of overdoing it, two crossovers is a luxury. The no headshunt arrangement would generally be used on a quieter line, as it blocks the running line during shunts.

 

Frequently local yards were serviced by trains from one direction only, the traffic could even pass on a service to "the junction" (right to left on your plan), be remarshalled and then return on a service which allows easier access to the yard (left to right on your plan) - removing the need for two crossovers.

sorry but thats really confused me

Or, without the headshunt (it was quite common to shunt from the running line) and with the original crossover reversed.

Keith

Due to space I think I'll go with this one. What is the purpose of the small line directly right of platform 2 on the sidings? I this the trap point?

dantimmy

let me see if i got this right:

Gordon - I need a trap point to derail any runaway wagons from the sidings so they don't interfere with the mainline?

and stationmaster:

stop signals can be referred to as sectional signals (protects the entrance to a block section) and home/outer home signals (protect the exit of the block section) Both of these can be used to protect points and station limits is the area between the home signal and next sectional signal. Is that correct? When you mentioned propelling within station limits, what do you mean exactly, sorry if this seems a tad blond.

Hi can anyone help me with this dilemma?

I have only just got into 4mm model railways in the last six months up till then it was no more than a day dream (for when I found the time and cash). Because a few grandparents worked on the GWR and coming from an area with a ex-GWR mainline terminus I decided to model my own GWR line.

I am starting with a small branchline that hopefully in the future will connect to a mainline allowing me to run almost anything I want. The station I have dreamt up is double track with sidings and a goods yard. Up till now I have found most of the things I need on the internet however I am really struggling with signals.

I vaguely understand the way stop,distant, starters work but I'm a little confused with where ground discs are placed. Are they required to be facing both ways etc. Upon buying "Modellers' guide to the Great Western Railway" I have discovered more signals, such as the shunting signal and backing signal. What is the purpose of these signals? Below I have drawn them on paint just in-case anyone else is in my shoes.

Below is a quick mock up on paint of the current plan for this layout.

Any advice on how to place semaphores would be great.

Many thanks

Dantimmy