Bedders

I put together one of these and found it very handy -https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3442165

Thanks for the clear summary of this machine.  Hopefully you can keep us updated with your progress as you get to know it better

Sorry to butt in, but how did the station end up with such an unusual platform arrangement?

Another tactic is to hide a join behind a downpipe

On 08/02/2022 at 23:16, ChrisN said:

Before I post about the station, I want to finish off the discussion about what the colour of MS&LR coaches was.  This is an interesting exercise in historical research.

 

Now unless you have been following the thread from Day 1, or have ploughed your way through 190 pages to get here, you may wonder why am I bothering with an MS&LR 4 wheel Tri-composite.  On a regular basis there were through coaches from several railways, including the MS&LR.  Every day there was in the winter a coach from Manchester London Road to Barmouth Traeth Mawr.  There were probably more in the summer.  I have made and had cut on a Silhouette three or four MS&LR coaches of different types, but I saw this one on Shapeways being sold by @Bedders.  The others are sort of started and I will get back to them sometime, honest.

 

So what colour were they?  The LNER web site says they were varnished wood and the wood was oak, and not teak.  It says other interesting things as well.

 

 

As you invoked me  I'll chime in with a couple of notes from a undated drawing of a GCR 6 wheel first. Probably from a slightly later period than the tri-composite, but it states teak panels on the outside, mahogany veneer on baywood inside. 

I'm having trouble comprehending the sheer amount of building you have fitted in

14 hours ago, monkeysarefun said:

All that said though, none of those features are deal breakers, just design quirks that work for me . Oh, maybe the rear USB slot, that I'd have to think about

A short usb extension cable can help

Photographic grey, but this appears to be painted rather than shiny - https://ba.e-pics.ethz.ch/catalog/ETHBIB.Bildarchiv/r/100993

Also grey, but inconclusive to my eyes - https://ba.e-pics.ethz.ch/catalog/ETHBIB.Bildarchiv/r/101164/

Green and looking a bit shiny - https://britbahn.wdfiles.com/local--files/gcr-11f-class/GCR_11E_No430_Marylebone_1917.jpg

Same - https://britbahn.wdfiles.com/local--files/gcr-9n-class/GCR_9N_Class.jpg

Same - https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/locomotive/images/5/55/GCR_8D.png

LN&ER looking green - http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/25553327

Conclusion? Probably dull brass, perhaps changing to green at a later date?

A quick look at the local planning portal gives Market Rasen here, but only the public areas, the station master's accommodation was/is the other side of the entrance

http://docs.west-lindsey.gov.uk/publisher/mvc/listDocuments?identifier=Planning&CaseNumber=131979

Having recently read 'Historical Railway Modelling' by David Jenkinson, it contains an interesting section on his Little Long Drag layout, that contained what he thought was every element he wanted, but lost his interest before it was completed. It was too unwieldy to operate on his own, among other things. Well worth a read if you haven't, a work of modelling philosophy in it's first half.

23 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Why Australia or New Zealand (or India) were not presented with the appropriate A4s on their withdrawal, I don't know. In the case of '12 and '13, an original A4 corridor tender would then have been preserved.

Kingfisher to the RSPB and Seagull to Cleethorpes council

On 27/04/2021 at 23:40, SteveyDee68 said:

The more I see 3D printing, the more I think it is possibly a way forward for me to model, given my current lack of skills! One really basic, possibly stupid question - why are things printed at an angle rather than flat?

 

Meanwhile am thoroughly enjoying your photos and layout, and looking forward to more in the future!

 

Steve S

For 2 main reasons - to reduce the appearance of the layer lines especially on curved surfaces and to avoid large changes of surface areas between layers that can cause print failure and distortion.

On 28/04/2021 at 08:09, F-UnitMad said:

The more I see 3D printing, the more I feel I am being left behind by advances in the hobby... 

3D printing, at the moment anyway, is akin to resin casting or brass etching. You don't have to do it yourself to gain the benefit. As process matures perhaps more people will print at home themselves, but I find the actual printing much harder than drawing up a design!

Hi Andy,

Thank you for listing all these, I'm interested in the following if they are still available:

Vintage Album - J.E. Kite

Railway Carriages... - Hamilton Ellis

Nineteenth Century Railway Carriages - Hamilton Ellis

History of Manchester Railways - Harrison

On 12/04/2021 at 15:58, Compound2632 said:

While on the hunting theme, several railways had hounds van for conveying the pack fro kennels to meet. The Midland built three in 1894, replacing three old ones [Midland Railway Study Centre Item 64204] with a 5'6" doorway with drop flap to make a ramp and a kennelmen's compartment. Here's an example of a Great Western one, converted from a centre-luggage third, diagram S5 (Penrhos lists just this one conversion). One compartment has been retained for the kennelmen. This photo* shows that hounds were easy to unload; I suspect it may have been harder to get them all in though I suppose intelligent dogs would put two and two together and realise that some doggish fun was in the offing.

 

*The horsebox next along the dock seems to be of antique design with a platform (perhaps formerly a luggage boot) at the nearer end. 

 

Back to Rowsley, a station with more than the average number of dukes among its regular users: on 4 March 1886, the Duke of Rutland sent 43 dogs to Nottingham, at a cost of 1/- per dog. Per the 1903 timetable book "Dogs conveyed in horseboxes or other special vehicles are charged at the dog rate, minimum charge as for one horse". Dog rates are given; 1/- being the rate for a journey of 30 to 40 miles. But I wonder how many dogs could be got into one horse box or hound van?

Considering the penchant for fox hunts to meet at railway stations and the wealth of at least some of the riders, there seems to be few photographs of this happening. After all, these were not small affairs, 200 riders and an invited pack of hounds at Brocklesby in 1896. 

Shapeways changing it's pricing structure, usually up, did for me. The printer pays for itself in a handful of prints

Changes for v2 will be continuous supports to give a crisper edge and and to hide the vestibule join up inside the roof. Not entirely happy with the clerestory windows. I like the shape of them being open, but will be a pain to glaze if  I put a hole in them

Showed MakeHuman to my daughter who loves playing Sims and is very interested in designing some figures for me

What's 5 years between friends or, indeed, posts?

First proper prints on my Elegoo Mars, the centre 3rd of what will hopefully be a GCR dining 1st. Droopy corner at the bottom left needs an extra support, but apart from that a vindication of printing it vertically with supports only on the end. Second picture IPA bath and UV cure only.

Hi I spotted your post with the O gauge wagon on another thread and wonder if you could elaborate on how you joined the sections together? Both the part design for alignment and the material finish would be interesting

That looks really good; what angle did you print at and what supports did you use?

I used to see 37s with only a couple of tanks behind it at Barnetby. Or even a 66 - http://www.davesrailpics.bravehost.com/barnetby/barnetby31002.htm

With so much variation in real life, I'd go with the layout that gives the most consistent overall look to the rake as you are modelling the train in its entirety.

Comparing how much of the height of the brown part of panel the crest takes up, I'll make the unhelpful observation it seems to be somewhere between the two sizes, but closer to the larger one. Have you tried correcting the photo for perspective? 

I really like the overall view, it has a good sense of space considering how small it is. Where did you get the figures for 3d printing from?

On 06/01/2021 at 08:41, queensquare said:

 

Are there specific horse drawn vehicles for potatoes or is it predominantly regular drays etc. Any pictures?

 

Jerry

The now extinct London Potato Horse was a remarkable specimen.