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17 hours ago, NXEA! said:

DC Kits have a very good Hornby sale on at this link: https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=246  

 

I picked up a BR lined black D16 for £75, and they have a few other D16's and J15's available at that price which is very decent as the cheaper older stock sold out a while back. Several older, hard to find steam models available at great prices, few things that stood out were: 

 

R3168 Railroad Duke of Gloucester, £60.  

R3273 Crosti 9F, £72.   

R3115 West Country, Exeter £120 (not necessarily a bargain but a well-sought after one I believe)  

R3229 GWR Star £75 

R3105 GWR Castle £92.50 

 

Plenty of other stuff on there too. No connection other than a customer earlier today and thought I would pass on the info. Fill yer boots! 

 

Thanks for the tip. I now have a pair of Wellingtons. The  previous R3105 cost 30 quid more and was best price I could get at the time.

The tender is the important part because I want to run It behind a Hall in circa 1953 GW weathered condition with BR smokebox plate.

Next decision is which Hall loco to use, a Bachmann which has good body detail but is said to be a bit feeble towing a train

or Hornby Railroad with reasonable chassis and motor but not so good body. Or an amalgam of the two.

Two showing. Bought one. Only one left at 1010 today.

Thank you for the hint.

Search on Comet web pages. Taken over by Wizard company or some name. I have the Comet pdf and will post it when use my pc. Soon.

this Is from ipad

Amazon uk has Hornby Collett coach R4876A for less than 20 quid. There were 13 available but now down to 11. Prices fluctuate. I paid slightly more for mine. The R4876 I bought for £24 is now about £43.

Sometimes the best way to hide anything is for it to be too obvious. Think of magicians, illusionists, on stage.  A securely fastened key box could be normally on view but be hidden behind a hinged or lift off house number plate  or house name plate. There is also the two stage option whereby a push button key box has a key to another box which has the door key. All push button devices are vulnerable unless code is changed frequently the open sesame buttons become shiny. Also applies to touch screens of tablets and phones.

On 5 August 2019 at 23:12, wagonman said:

 

There was the Wills factory at Bristol...

Just asked my wife about Bristol connection and she says that Nottingham was Imperial Tobacco but does remember what or why.

Question for original poster. How did you progress this modification?

The reason I ask is that I recently bought a Bachmann 39-240 expecting it to have fixed seat interior but it has the simulated loose table and chair interior. Basically an RFO without the Restaurant Car branding. It has a smooth roof without oversize weld seams.

i shall keep it and source a fixed seat moulding from somewhere to cut and shut to suit its running number M3001.

The diagram 72 version with centre door and narrow windows is interesting so I may get another 39-240 to make one of the M3003-M3019 series using parts from a non-gangway coach. There is a Bachmann sale on so some 39-240 FO may be cheaper than usual. I paid £30.95 including P&P. Has anyone seen any going cheaper? 

Full size data.

https://spicerparts.com/calculators/driveline-operating-angle-calculator

Gulls are nasty sods, especially during nesting.  I spent a weekend on Flat Holm, an island in the Bristol Channel and an amazing place, once, during nesting.  When we landed the island's warden's handed us all umbrellas 'you'll soon see what they're for'.  The gulls infest the island completely, terrorising the chickens that are kept for fresh eggs, and everything is carpeted in chicken bones; these are the result of gull bin raids on the city centre takeaway areas of Cardiff, Newport, Barry, Weston-Super-Mare and Bristol.  No wonder the resident chucks are a bit nervous, surrounded by the scattered remains of their cousins...

 

These gulls do not just have a bad attitude, they are mob handed, and use droppings as a weapon, hence the brollies.  Brollies are also a useful tool when half a dozen of them physically attack you, as they will if they feel like it.  My initial reaction, that I wasn't going to attack any poor birdie, didn't last very long, and I was soon enjoying the satisfaction of a good hit with the best of 'em.

 

Flying rats

 

 

Arctic Terns on Farne Islands nest along grass edge of path and dive bomb intruders. They have very sharp beaks that need a hard hat is essential to avoid getting hen pecked.

Sale items still in stock are listed under Bargains tab and manufacturers list as always. I find the word Bargain is a little wide in meaning. There are some coaches described as Bargain for £22 that were a £12 bargain a few years ago.

In the book selling trade it is usual that the lowest advertised price is used to calculate the remainder price for sales of new books. Usually ten percent of last published price. Once a book is marked down it cannot go back up. The remainder price is also used to calculate royalties.

Maybe a similar scheme should apply to model railways. Would upset ebay sellers asking above RRP.

I agree. Excellent value. I have a couple just on the shelf as spare power drives. One of the tenders has gone behind a Hornby Star, to replace the large tender. as the full lined tender with GREAT WESTERN on has only ever been released in the Swindon Steam version. You may have to replace the tender handrails, (ibut only if you want to) but a spare rolling chassis and a spare tender for under $50. BARGAIN!

 

Mike Wiltshire

I bought one of these to see if the chassis is a good runner. Out of the box it pulled sixteen 12T goods vans plus four GWR goods brake vans on second radius oval. Very smooth at all speeds. Suitably impressed, two more just arrived. Three loco's for the price of one from main range is hard to beat. One will stay original but other two are for projects and spares. I also bought some more brown and cream MK1 coaches with 1959 roundel to make a standard-5 set but cannot find a photograph or carriage notes as such. Composites rare on WR also.

Last Saturday Mrs R and I took a trip to Powis Castle to see the gardens. They're well worth a visit though having seen the castle a few years ago it was just the gardens we were interested in.

 

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Unfortunately it no longer seems like you can get garden only admission and the experience was further soured as the lady behind the pay desk was far more interested in trying to sell us membership of the National Trust than anything else. When we got to the entrance to the gardens this was compounded by a couple with a dog being told that they couldn't take the dog into the gardens apart from one small section separate from the main splendour; it appeared that they hadn't been told this when they bought their tickets. I can see the reason behind not allowing dogs into the garden, I'd agree that it's a good idea not to but it should be made clear when buying tickets.

 

Never mind, though I was irked by the very obvious imperative to part punter from their cash any narkiness I had evaporated as we drifted round the grounds. However sitting down with drinks and snacks at the garden tea rooms we wondered if first impressions might have been right as rather than glass and china our food and drink came on and in disposable plates and mugs.

 

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Looking more closely at the tableware it all claimed to be compostable, so being by then beiing a bit mistrusting of the National Trust I thought I'd bring the items home and see if they lived up to the claim. Last Saturday I put them in a separate container with the contents of the kitchen caddy to give them a bit of a start. Here's the state of play a week later.

 

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Now we do a lot of composting so I know that it'll take some time, and I'll need to allow extra because the quantity involved is small (the bigger the compost heap the faster it rots) but I thought it might be interesting to see how the experiment pans out over time.

Reply. We went to Powis Castle last Wednesday as a family group. Seventeen of us. Two families were members so got in free. I paid 84 quid for non members. We were all put off by lady who was intent on selling memberships and was very aggressive. Other lady was very helpful. Well worth a day out. Cafe is basic but did the job. Bouncy ball jousting was a hit with young ones and not so yoiung.

And they honour the guarantees.

 

I had an electric chain saw where the on/off switch stopped working as it should.   Contacted them and explained that after 2.5 years the till receipt had faded to read nothing at all - along with several others in that year's pile.  They sent a postal slip.  I returned the body and it came back fully functional within 10 days of me sending it off.

I bought two convector heaters that had three warranty. One was duff as bought and was replaced immediately. The scond one went wrong after about 63 days. I took it back and was told the return to store limit was 60 days. I managed by arithmetic logic to convince staff member that 63 days from whenever was 60 working days and got another heater. One of them packed up after more than 60 days so had to go along three year warranty route. Easy except that I had to return it at my expense to Australia. So I bought a switch for a fiver and repaired it myself.

From the workshop:

 

- Using 'G-cramps' to 'cramp' things together, rather then clamp them.

- Cutting a 'slither' rather than a sliver.

- Using a 'fillet' of solder in a joint rather than fill it with solder.

 

David

G-cramp is used for woodwork

G-clamp is used in engineering

source Uncle Tom Godfrey, CEGB training school, East yelland, 1960.

Another torpedo ventilator drawing in NRM archives (external link)...

http://www.nrm.org.uk/ResearchAndArchive/drawing?group=Derby%20Carriage%20%26%20Wagon&objid=7955

Hi 6959, what a superb picture of the TK showing the welded bogies, trusses and frames. The box cover on the door is a vent, many LMS coaches had these removed over time and if one looks at a non corridor coach you can sometimes see odd doors without vents and later no vents at all, makes for nice detail differences between coaches in a train. This seemed to happen from about mid fifties, can Coachmann confirm?

The photo also shows the torpedo vents nicely I tried three times to make a good version of this 'low vent' and finally got good close-up pictures from an LMS coach being restored and now produce these:-

CV01 LMS torpedo vent.jpg

I have a number of coaches awaiting fitting of vents both torpedo and ridge dome as well as LMS buffers though I've still to do the shell vents I need for most of the Hornby Stanier coaches, where Hornby got the shape for those is anybodies guess.

 

Thanks for posting the photo.

 

Dave Franks.

Link to drawing of torpedo ventilator at NRM (proably other variations)...

http://www.nrm.org.uk/ResearchAndArchive/drawing?group=Derby%20Carriage%20%26%20Wagon&objid=4088

A picture  from same source showing another TK coach to D2119 but this time of 12992 built by BRC&W with shell vents (but may have been altered by BR).

 

12992_b18198.jpg

More details at this external link...

http://svrtrust.org.uk/our-vehicles/lms/12992-2.html

Picture of Derby-built TK number 2300 to diagram D2119 showing torpedo roof vents and later type window ventilators. Some more excellent views on web page link on watermark.

 

Looks very similar to Bachmann model 39-450 if circular lavatory windows filled on corridor side and reshaped to rectangular on compartment side. The round window is slightly larger in diameter than the width of a rectangular lavatory window.  There is a box cover on doors of 2300 that is not on the model.

 

2300_b18199.jpg

Some more information here...

http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=660

Just came across this rather elderly thread and must confirm that Darren's not the only one hankering for a ready-to-run Maunsell Restaurant Car ..... are you listening, Hornby ?  Appropriate kits are available from Phoenix ( NOT the paint people - but the Southern Railways Group ) or you might find an old Ian Kirk kit if you're lucky ................ as a very good alternative and probably 100% authentic ( depending on your modelling period ) you can use what Hornby DO make in profusion - a Pullman Car ( most likely a Kitchen First ).

Kitchen First Pullman on Bluebell for info.

http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/fingall.html

Just came across this rather elderly thread and must confirm that Darren's not the only one hankering for a ready-to-run Maunsell Restaurant Car ..... are you listening, Hornby ?  Appropriate kits are available from Phoenix ( NOT the paint people - but the Southern Railways Group ) or you might find an old Ian Kirk kit if you're lucky ................ as a very good alternative and probably 100% authentic ( depending on your modelling period ) you can use what Hornby DO make in profusion - a Pullman Car ( most likely a Kitchen First ).

A Pullman shown here...

http://www.maltoni.co.uk/formations.html

Just opened a letter from an. Thank you Hornby they have given me a discount code for a £100 to use on there web site. Thank You Hornby.

 

I have just looked on there web site and there is nothing that tickles me intrest.

 

Does any one know how long this discount voucher is valid for.

 

Terry.

I am on my third voucher code. Each time I tried to use the first two they did not work and by the time I got another code the items I had planned to buy were sold out.

To get free postage I would need to spend at least £130 because the amount on the voucher does not qualify for free postage.

With Hornby's very high selling prices it is better to buy elsewhere so I have abandoned any thought of using the £100 voucher. My actual loss is £63.

Finding enough items to buy on Hornby site is a problem. If the total order value is less than the amount on the voucher code, any unspent value is lost.

The only Hornby loco I have bought this year is a 72xx (not from Hornby site and cost £100 new). All other new loco's are Bachmann or Heljan. Coaches like the new type Hornby MK1s turn up on sale for about £10. A set of four Hornby ex-LMS subrban coaches cost me £150 (from a shop, not from Hornby). Another thought was some set track from Hornby site but Peco Streamline is cheaper and will allow larger radius curves.

I was searching for a full size picture that may have been the inspiration for the Triang GRAIN wagon and came across this post.

Very similar and assume the model is slightly freelance.

The bottom part without the dome was sold as an open hopper.

I just found a box of one dozen of the R214 and would like to use them somehow.

Thanks for posting these photo's.

A picture  from same source showing another TK coach to D2119 but this time of 12992 built by BRC&W with shell vents (but may have been altered by BR).

Personally I do not think it is worthwhile converting a Bachmann into a previous diagram when roof vents have to be changed and the body patched up to blank off porthole windows etc. But further to my previous posting, here is a Bachmann D2170 Porthole corridor third straight out of the box....

WEB D2170.jpg

 

And the previous D2119 corridor third with extra corridor doors, welded underframe but, shell roof vents no porthole windows. Windows have the older style sliders. Due to shortage of materials, some of this diagram left works with fixed windows and so they might have been given new type sliding windows at a later date.....

WEB D2119.jpg

Picture of Derby-built TK number 2300 to diagram D2119 showing torpedo roof vents and later type window ventilators. Some more excellent views on web page link on watermark.

Looks very similar to Bachmann model 39-450 if circular lavatory windows filled on corridor side and reshaped to rectangular on compartment side. The round window is slightly larger in diameter than the width of a rectangular lavatory window.  There is a box cover on doors of 2300 that is not on the model.

A 'Beclawat' magazine advert from 1961.

Has anyone got a picture of similar 'Beclawat' windows in 1940s or 1950s?