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    Wright writes.....

    in Modelling musings & miscellany

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    As the person who posted the link I have now deleted it.

    In my naivety I assumed that as YouTube were a global concern they would respect copyright as I expect they would soon go after someone legally who crossed them. It seems not. So I have deleted the link and offer my apologies.

    Hayfields turnout workbench

    in Permanent Way, Signalling & Infrastructure

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    Hayfield, you may have covered this in the thread but it is such a long thread!

     

    How to you keep the straight rail straight when you are using C&L chairs?

     

    When I built copper clad turnouts I would lay a 12 inch rule on the inside of the rail, push it flush to the ruler and solder the outside.

     

    The chairs on C&L obviously prevent this approach.

     

    Thank you in anticipation.

    Wright writes.....

    in Modelling musings & miscellany

    Posted · Edited by CoViAnna

     

    Photo in post 2542.

    The one with the 4F and the signal box.

    Greatest advert for going P4.

    Sorry, could not resist.

    Bernard

     

     

     

     

    Bernard,

     

    Of course, the grossly under-scale gauge and the grossly over-scale flanges and flangeways inherent with OO show up in head-on shots such as this, even in what's ostensibly FS OO (a nonsensical description, I admit). Were it P4, it would not, but would it run?

     

    Certainly, no P4 B1 would negotiate 2' radius curves, nor probably a 4F. Advocates of P4 will no doubt say it's daft to even try, and, to some extent, I agree. But would that same advert for P4 apply to the main line? Could an ECML depiction in P4 be successfully accommodated in 32' x 12'? I very much doubt it. 

     

    Given that P4 (Protofour- Studiolith originally) has been around for getting on for 50 years (though probably longer in a non-commercial sense), why has nobody (individual or group) built a BR Class One steam-powered main line depiction in P4/S4? By Class One I mean somewhere on the WCML, ECML, the WR main lines to Bristol or Birmingham or the SR main line to Basingstoke (and beyond). There was a model of Tring in New Zealand but a friend who saw it said it didn't run, and the pictures of it in the MRJ showed cobwebs across the lines from a signal gantry. Aberhafren was a good advert for P4, though hardly a trunk main line, and the late Tony Miles' beautiful Adavoyle ran very well, though his largest locos were 2-6-0s/4-4-0s. Chris Pendlenton certainly builds some outstanding ECML big stuff, but can they run on 15-coach trains at 90 mph? Knowing Chris' outstanding ability, no doubt they will, but where? Whetstone was a visually beautiful GC depiction but it was broken up in frustration because of poor running (and not winning a prize at a show?). Dunwhich, which ran superbly in EM, was converted to P4 and most stuff fell off. Wadhurst was a secondary SR main line but a rebuilt 'BB' wouldn't go round when I saw it.

     

    No, show me a P4 equivalent of Tebay, Yatton Junction, Hungerford, Retford, High Dyke, Biggleswade, Stoke Summit or (dare I say it?) Little Bytham. In the last-mentioned case, BUILD over 150 appropriate locomotives (modify 50), BUILD over 100 carriages (modify a 120 more), BUILD over 300 wagons (modify many more), all in P4, and I might succumb to the seductions of your advert. Then run them on an (almost) full-length depiction of an ECML station in its BR heyday, for over four continuous hours, with no derailments, no failures (other than those caused by crumbling faculties!) at speeds (on the scenic section) of up to 100 mph. Why? Because during a day spent at the real LB in the summer of 1958 you would have seen just that. By cutting out the time gaps between the trains, I can run a representative 14-hour period sequence, with no loco appearing twice, except those which would - Grantham-Peterborough-only locos. I admit, though, that some of the trains have to double-up, but they're all scale-length. 

     

    My apologies for 'shouting', but, sorry, I couldn't resist.

     

     

    I agree with all you have said and the only P4 layout I can think of that meets your criteria is Mostyn. However I accept it is a diesel layout which may make a difference.

     

     

    PS My first ever post on here!
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