Kestrel

A rubbish day for LNER enthusiasts. Time to let the card recharge.

How to take up eight pages talking about nothing.

Were the B17s City of London and East Anglian?

yes they were

have a look at this https://www.lner.info/locos/B/b17.php

All the coach is supposed to be teak and near enough the same colour.. On those it looks as if Fablon panels have been stuck on the side.

This is an impression of what Lime Street Station will look like 2018 style after the addition of a new platform.

before

and after

How the station looks from Lime Street in 2018

We're talking about how bad the Hornby teaks are. Has anybody seen the Dapol N gauge ones? With a bit of luck you won't see the fault because of their size but that apart, they are awful. Just click on each pic and blow it up.

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/106036127529689486079/album/AF1QipOq1xWYWOzqAmxLwhKisSvdZabCp_3ePEUFptD1

Andy Y has just posted these images of the newly released Bachmann Thompson teak coaches. Interesting comparison.

 

 

Bachmann teak.jpg

 

 

Copyright A York.

Are you sure they aren't 'oaks' as opposed to 'teaks'?

Something I failed to mention in my original message was that the new ones have a new catalogue ® number and don't follow on from the originals with an updated suffix letter. I wonder if that is of any significance.

Have you got a link to a photo of these please.

https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2018/page/3.html?

ok all, it's taken some time getting new pricing, the £, Brexit, Chinese new year etc. 

We now have tooling and manufacturing costs for an N gauge N2....

and now we  also have costs for an OO gauge N2, and Quadarts in both scales. 

 

Once i have digested the figures, messed my head up working out VAT, claiming back VAT, net present value on tooling costs and other financial type stuff. I will finally be able to start taking expressions of interest. 

As Hornby already do the OO gauge N2, why don't you ignore that and concentrate on the OO gauge quadarts and the N gauge ones?

Tallington has a subtle hint of what was there on the western side of the line, I believe the pub used to be a railway hotel - that would certainly explain a bit about the way it is laid out. Sadly it seems to have closed it's doors about a month ago. I'd tend to agree it is difficult to picture a station there now. There used to be a footbridge north of the road.

Further to above, I found this about the hotel. The 'Whistle Stop' formerly 'Kesteven Arms'.

https://whatpub.com/pubs/PET/340/whistle-stop-tallington

http://thewhistlestop.co.uk/  This link refers to a management change last year..

Yes, it is the building that was on Lord Nelson Street. We only have two photos of the original building viewed from Lord Nelson Street. As we cannot find any photos from the station side, mainly because it is hidden by the station roof, we are making the front the same as the back originally was. Our model will also be mostly hidden by the station roof!

 

Lime Street Station Offices A.jpg

 

Originating from Liverpool, I remember that the arches to the right led to the parcels area where road wagons were loaded and unloaded. It was also used as a short cut to the inside of the station. The arches were also conveniently placed opposite the stage door of the nearby Empire Theatre.

 

Get on to the Sun. That would be right down their street as we say up north. You could try the Daily Mail as well.

68891,68894 and 68920,

I'm no expert which is why I hesitated earlier but looking at the green RCTS book 8A, I have this info. I don't know if it helps.

68891 was built in February 1914. It became an LNER J51/1 with 3 coal rails made from flat strips. It received its LNER number 3158 in October 1925. It was rebuilt as a J50/1 in March 1935 with a short bunker with cage-type coal rails. Its number was changed to 3181 in June 1945, 8891 in November 1946 and its BR number 68891 in October 1949. It was withdrawn in July 1961.

68894 was built in February 1914 It became an LNER J51/1. It received its LNER number 3161 in January 1925. It was rebuilt as a J50/1 in September 1932 with a short bunker with cage-type coal rails. Its number was changed to 3184 in June 1945, 8894 in June 1946 and its BR number 68894 in April 1949. It was withdrawn in September 1961.

68920 was built in October 1922. It became an LNER J50/2. It received its LNER number 3221 in January 1926, changing to 8920 in April 1946 and its BR number 68920 in February 1950. J50/2s were fitted with backing plates to their coal rails from 1931 onwards. 689209 was withdrawn in July 1961.

I think Hornby will be producing all types. See here and you can see rear views.  http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/SiteResults.aspx?searchfield=Hornby%20J50

If you're talking about 1948, all three would be in LNER unlined black with their LNER numbers because as you can see above, they didn't get BR numbers until 1949/1950.

It depends how accurate you want to be as the models you chose might have differences, eg the number of lamp brackets. There's been a debate on http://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10879&hilit=J50s about this as some have three and others, five.

I know little or nothing about the J50 (thats my starting point). I was wondering if anyone who has detailed knowledge of these locos could advise me on three locos that were allocated to Woodford Halse around 1948; they were 68891,68894 and 68920, I believe the first two were J50/1s and the third a J50/2. I want to know what bunkers any of these locos would have had, I have seen a photo of (6)8891 with what looks like a raised bunker and grill around it but the detail is difficult to make out. I would like to have one of these locos and am happy to renumber and carry out minor modifications, however before purchase i would like some idea of which Hornby J50 would be a close match for any of the Woodford locos. I have trawled the web and the LNER/GCR sites with little success, I would be grateful if anyone with more knowledge than me (most people then) could point me in the direction of the most appropriate Hornby loco to buy?

Thanks in anticipation.

If you pop the question on www.lner,info someone will answer you in detail. You can also put J50 into the search box as it's been a topic of discussion since its launch.

Gilbert

You want to know how to copy links.

Go into the website whose link you want to copy. Highlight the url in the address bar, eg http://www.brian-lambert.co.uk. Right click on your mouse, click on 'copy'. Go back to where you want to insert the link, right click on the mouse and click on 'paste'. The link will then appear.

Going back to your triple if I may, was Restaurant Car a 'transfer' as opposed to a 'rub on' as it has slipped over the beading?

Your website is excellent. I go into it every day to see what's been added. Keep up the good work.

Phil

I've had a cold for just over a week and it developed into a cough much the same as yours, GN. Not so bad during the day but keeping me up at night, so I got some TCP and gargled with that first thing in the morning and last thing at night. Together with 'Mentholated Bronchial Balsam' (£3.80 for 200ml at the chemist but £1.80 for 300ml at Asda) during the day, the cough and cold have almost gone. The TCP might pong a bit but who cares if it does the job?

Keep up the good work. I check in everyday to see what's happened on PN.

See here how a Mallard rescues her chick from a hungry Seagull 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3376243/Beak-careful-Incredible-moment-duckling-saved-clutches-seagull-mother.html

Hi Mike

I've been following your moves daily. I'm not criticising what you have done in any way, it's great, but are you going to line the coach? If so, wouldn't it have been easier to do it whilst it is still in pieces and whilst the sides are still flat?