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I also ordered that month and mine arrived yesterday. Is there any chance that your card details have expired and Kernow need an update?

No I telephoned them direct and paid early as requested by them in order to keep the pre order price. The money left my account a month or so ago. I may just send them an email or give them a ring to check.

Come to me my lovelies!! 

 

Notification from Kernow, they're in the post  so they are up towards the end of 2016 now in the order stakes.

Hi folks, has anyone any knowledge of between what dates 34061 '73 Squadron' carried red nameplates please? Many thanks in advance. Lee

Does anyone have any recommendations for waterslide or pressfix cabside numbers for renumbering  30193 or 30225.  I have noted there is a  set at Model Master Jacksons which includes numbers for both 30203 and 30236 but I have not been able to find a set for 30200 which is what I want to renumber one of my locos to. If there are not any 30200 waterslide transfers available anywhere could anyone recommend which are the most suitable available pressfix transfers to use to apply individual numbers to the cabside please.

Many thanks in advance.

Lee

I have just found this photo of 4992 'Crosby hall taken during August 1954.

It appears to my eyes that it is green with an early emblem on the tender.  

The loco was allocated to Laira shed at the time.  

Would anyone please be able to clarify from the photo that the loco is green?

I have tried to use Coachmanns earlier advice in checking the tender livery lining to determine livery colour. 

I'm pretty certain about this one. Cobham Hall left Swindon in July 1956 following a Heavy General and almost certainly a repaint from lined black into lined green. Karhedron's link clearly shows the early crest later that year. I also have a photo of it on Newton Abbot shed receiving attention to a piston in Feb 1957, still with early crest. It's next HG at Swindon was in July 1958, when the late crest would have been acquired.

Cobham was also paired with the same Collett tender for the duration of this period in traffic, so no chance of a change that way. It's continuous allocation to 83B Taunton for the remainder of the 1950's would have ensured regular workings across the South West.

Andy.

Nice find Andy, thanks.

Lee

Hi Lee,

From an initial search of West Country allocated early batch Halls fitting your livery/tender criteria, I can only identify 4991 Cobham Hall. Allocated to Taunton from February 1956.

Most of the early Hall's were lined black with the early crest until repainted into late crest green and most of the exceptions seem to have avoided the South West.

 

Regards,

 

Andy.

Thanks for that information Andy.

Regards

Lee 

"Great Western Halls and Modified Halls" By Laurence Waters has a shot of Broome Hall at Bodmin Road in 1956. I don't have a copy to hand but the library has a copy. Let me know if you do not have any luck with your searches and I can check it out for you.

 

Nice shot here of Hanbury Hall in 1957. It has the early crest but the lining is indistict. It has a Hawksworth tender though which may rule it out for your purposes.

 

http://www.geograph.org.uk/reuse.php?id=2468403&download=e33383af&size=original

 

No clear shots of the other 2 in early crest livery that I have been able to find.

Thanks Karhedron,

I haven't got that book but I may try to grab a copy at some point along with a copy of The Book of the Hall 4-6-0 Part 1 which also looks interesting.

Yes you are correct the Hawksworth tender is not what i'm looking for, its specifically the Collett one.

Thanks again. 

Many thanks Coachmann,

 

I will see if I can now identify the liveries from black & white photos with your advice.

 

Regards

 

Lee

Following on from Coachmanns advice I have been scouring my books and the internet for photos of early emblem green livery Halls and have found several.

However I am particularly interested in 4908 'Broome Hall', 4931 'Hanbury Hall' 4936 'Kinlet Hall and 4950 'Patshull Hall'  all of which were allocated to the West Country during the mid 50's.

I have not at present been able to source photos of these where I have felt comfortable to say its green with early emblem.

Has anyone any knowledge of photographs of any of these locos from the mid 50s especially if they are in green livery with an early emblem?

Any advice would be gratefully received.

Many thanks.

Lee

Fox transfers do 6 inch cab side number sheets.

 

Ref FRH4008/6_16384

 

These are individual numbers you have to cut out and at one at a time. Currently using them to turn my two early crest BWT's to late crest.

Many thanks roundhouse I will have a look.

Hello Folks,

Would anyone be able to recommend a transfer sheet to me for numbering both 30585 and 30586 into early emblem liveries.  My 30585 is currently the late crest model and 30586 is the latest release with  'BRITISH RAILWAYS'  on the splashers?

Many thanks,

Lee.

The light grey of LNWR style lining out on black locos would be pretty obvious on black & white photos whereas the fine orange lining on green locos is often quite invisible. The Western Region was quick off the mark adopting green and it pre-dated the 1956 livery changes. I seem to recall the 'Halls' were amongst the first recipients and of course carried the early totem. Not sure if a list of locos so painted exists and so as usual photos are the best bet. A quick glance through 'Portrait of Western 4-6-0's shows 4914 Cranmore Hall, 4949 Packwood Hall and  4910 Blaisdon Hall in green with early totem. Two photos of locos photographed ex works in Swindon Works yard are dated February 1957 (early crest) and November 1957 (late crest).

Many thanks Coachmann,

I will see if I can now identify the liveries from black & white photos with your advice.

Regards

Lee

Hi All,

I have a Bachmann 32-005 Hall 4962 'Ragley Hall', which is in Green with early emblem which I would like to re-number.

I believe Bachmann have modelled this on its mid 50's livery. 

I am wondering if anyone has knowledge of what other non modified halls carried an early emblem with green livery?

I am especially interested in locos that were allocated to sheds in the West country.

Due to the time period of around 1955 with B&W photos I find it very difficult to distinguish between black and green liveries.    

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Lee 

So far I've looked through a handful of the books I have and haven't (yet) come across refs or photos of 199 in C&C.

I have found set 27 in C&C in May 1957 and a photo of set 25 as a half and half.

Thanks Chris,

I am looking to use the Hornby Maunsell p set 199 in a 1954/55ish era. I have made up set 27 in c&c but was looking to see whether set 199 was always in Green to use it realistically alongside my c&c set 27. I'm assuming then that set 199 may have gone straight from malachite to BR Green, or was it a set that was kept in revarnished malachite? I have also not been able to find a photo of set 199 in c&c in my limited book & DVD collection.

Regards

Lee

199 spent a fair while down in the North Cornwall area and a few of those sets did carry a C&C livery. I'm away from home at the moment but will have a flick through my N Cornwall and southern coaches books when next back.

Hi Chaps,

I am interested to know if anyone knows whether 'P set' 199 ever carried a crimson & cream livery or was it always Green?

I have made attempts to research this but have not as yet been able to find any photos of 199 in C&C.

Many thanks

Regards

Lee

Hi Folks,

apoligies if this has been mentioned elsewhere previously, I have searched but cannot find the information.

Is it possible someone can provide details of between what years each of the four sets were being used in the liveries they are being produced please?  

Many thanks  

Lee