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Having just read a 1932 book The romance of the Underground, the rates of pay there were something like £4/18/6 a week for a top line controller, £4/16/0 a week for a driver, going down to just over £2 a week for a cleaner. So this would suggest a weekly average wage of about £3/10/0 a week not £5. This would amount to nearly 50% of the week's wages for a radio valve! It puts things into perspective.

Locos wouldn't be found to have a hot big end prior to leaving the shed as implied in your first post. Arriving locos may well have a hot big end. Locos being prepared could be failed for things like broken springs, other loose or worn bits underneath. even locos that have been "repaired" or serviced by fitters could be found by the shed prep crew. Arriving locos with known defects would be disposed of and dumped on a "dead" siding for repair.

On facilities, don't forget the outside toilets. The one at Top Shed was by all accounts a basic affair with a number of "traps" with half doors as decency screens and a continuous bench seat with suitable size holes. The waste was an open pipe which flowed down to one end. this provided amusement to some who would wait for some grumpy old sod to use the 2nd trap from the lower end. The outlet would be blocked by waste paper or rags and would of course block back to trap 2. Someone would then set fire to some cotton waste soaked in oil and floated down towards trap 2...followed by a hearty yell as occupant of trap 2 ran out...

Happy days.

Ring mains and radial systems both seem to work perfectly well here and abroad from what I've seen in Europe. The British fetish to earth everything and PAT test everything amuses those on the continent.

I used to own a Wurlitzer jukebox that kept blowing fuses when i bought it. It turned out that the previous owner had a problem with it blowing fuses because I discovered the change-over relay that made something inside go the other way and flipped its contacts so they had jammed. He replaced the slow blow fuse with a no-blow fuse, (see above) with a nail which then blew not only the 13A in the plug but the house RCD as well!

In my old workshop we had a set of Prolift vehicle lifts, 3 phase 5 tonne jobbies. We had a problem with those, so someone decided to try to get them to work by holding in a relay. that was the one that reversed the phases to reverse the lift motors. Not only did that blow the internal fuses but the 63A fuses in the 3-phase input! It was quite a spectacular BANG!

My previous house was built by Colt, a novel timber frame design from the late 1920s, but built in 1971. I was installing some double sockets and found several loose connections in the backs of the old single sockets. I've learnt that these can work loose just with the 50hz frequency as the cause.

3 hours ago, TheQ said:

Of course a proper PAT test or more properly "In-service Inspection & Testing of Electrical Equipment" includes taking the back off all mains plugs.. Checking the tightness of connections and the correct fuse is fitted.

 

The PYE of Cambridge, Westminster Radio.. Now that's a blast from the past.. worked on a few of those..

 

Definitely, not a fast blow fuse then.. yes there are fuses designed to be  fast and slow blow .

Some have no-blow fuses installed, usually loads of silver paper, a nail, or suchlike.

Reminds me of an incident many years ago with my first mrs. I had a home-made extension lead with a single 13 a plug on one end and a 13 a socket on the other. This was wound onto a metal and cardboard cable reel for storage.

I got home and found she'd used it for something like the washing machine. The cable reel had started to melt as the tin inner of the reel acted as a core for the coil and had caused it to overheat. Luckily the only damage was to the cable, but 10 minutes more could well have caused a fire. Think before you use an extension cable, completely unroll it first if you're going to use a high current thing for a continuous period.

On 16/11/2020 at 17:06, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Isn't a fuse on aa appliance connected to a MCB/RCD circuit redundant?

 

Mike.

 

 

Yes. If you plug the appliance into an extension lead, that is also fused. why have 3 fuses in a circuit when 1 will do? Which one will blow first? Not the lowest rated, but probably the RCD in the cupboard under the stairs.

Having little or no interest in DCC, this lot has dissuaded me from ever trying it. when I built the MRC's New Annington layout we had less iring than those 2 shown in the videos. We had 7 cab controls, automatic 4 aspect colour light signals interlocked with the points, entry/exit push-button controlled hidden loops and sidings, working interlocked semaphores...

Admittedly we had light-sensitive switches with a couple of transistors as train detection and a couple of infra-red detectors in the loops, but it was all controlled by switches and relays. AFAIK the only electronic thing was a late addition, an AHB level crossing with working barriers.

I'd rather spend time wiring up and making the trains move than spend time trying to work out how to programme everything. I also hate having to spend ages programming each controller to move a train, not my idea of fun. If I want to do computer stuff, I do that here.

Now, where's my H&M Duette?

Pick-up wire touching chassis when running forward?

But will they be moulded plastic or 3D printed? Sounds interesting whatever. Good luck on your venture.

Duettes are variable resistor, very reliable units. I have one that i bought in the mid 1960s' still using it.

Sammy the Shunter was at Brighton in the mid 1960s in a unit under the seafront arcade.

Dublodad's reply sounds about right. There is virtually no circuitry in these old units. everything is visible and easily traceable. All the answers are above. It may be the rivets that operate the wiper have broken or failed.

It will take less time to trace the wires in the unit than it will to go online to find a wiring diagram.

According to the 34A Facebook Kings Cross staff group, the new trains out-accelerate the HSTs by "quite a bit" but of course are far less comfortable. Their comments are from those who have driven on the ECML since the Deltic days.

It's a bit like walking time. At Waterloo the agreed walking time from the old mess room in the Village Block on platform 15 was 5 minutes to the front of the train on all platforms. with a new guv'nor in the early 1980s this was altered. He was concerned about late departures after the flexible rostering strike. He had a bit of a gammy leg and one evening peak walked with the union rep from his office opposite the mess room to the end of platform 1. It took him a good 9 minutes fighting through the evening crowds. Walking time was then 10 minutes to the furthest platforms. then when trains were put in the "wrong" platform that messed up the agreed walking time. So we ended up with 10 minutes walking time to all platforms. Which then messed up the new flexible rostering rosters...

If the "prepare in your own time" were to be introduced, where would liability start and finish if there were to be an incident? It doesn't add up at all. to refer to a case in the bus driving industry, the "Shearings" case was interesting. Shearings ran tour coaches. A  driver could be required to drive his own car from home to a distant location, say Dover from Manchester, to take over a coach to ago abroad. Say 6 hours driving for that journey in a car. He and another driver could then be on duty for up to 22 hours sharing the coach driving between them. the car driving wan't recorded on the tachograph. It was deemed that the drive to pick up the coach was indeed work and needed to be put on the tacho as "other work".

It cost Shearings a fortune in legal fees to get the case heard but t least the law was clarified. If your employer tells you to do it, it's work.

The class 33 was taken on the only modern ferry with the height to take it, again with the right tides! Modern ferries are designed to take quite a few 40 tonne lorries spaced out..

With the old ferries, yes they could physically have taken more than 1 at a time, but did Pickfords have more than 1 trailer that could cope with it? 

I'm not old enough (cough cough) to remember SR emu stock with whistles, and never worked on the 71s. Interesting times though. 

Is 007 coming back into service for the last few weeks or "going" going?

On 21/11/2020 at 21:14, Christopher125 said:

 

The Standard Stock and 483s were given 'mainline' whistles, as once fitted to EMUs on the 3rd rail network  - IIRC they started off with originals, including examples recovered from Class 71s, but later replicas were made.

 

484001 appears to have kept it's LU original.

 

 

Not aware of any, and none should be needed - the tightest spots were two overbridges where track was lowered back in August. 

According to the latest issue of Island Rail News, track under 2 bridges was lowered earlier in the year. Another 2 places are being lowered but only on one line. I can't copy photos across to here due to copyright reasons.

I would suggest the 38 stock has standard 38 stock whistles. Main line EMUs are fitted with two-tone horns. AFAIK only the Waterloo & City stock had whistles.

According to local radio, the Island Line was down to one train operation again yesterday.

I tried Kadees in the 1960s and always had a problem mounting them and they were very expensive in those days. Went over to the miniature Airfix style tension locks with wire loops on the locos, but switched to German stuff in the early 1980s. With that I went over to Kadees as an experiment and never looked back.

Now with British stuff again with Kadees. I use a mixture of the NEM couplers and the differing box monutings. I usually get the ones with the coupler head centrally mounted, I find that's best for most British stuff and looks neater than the NEM variants. On coaches with out CCUs I use the CCUs from Kean Systems, available from Peters Spares and use Hornby/Roco KK between coaches. They're a bit of a pig to couple to get very close coupling, but do-able. 

As long as you allow sifficient clearance between the buffer heads and use the coupling height gauge  there shouldn't be any problems. If the coupler box is mounted under floor, use a coupler with the offset head to get it to the right height and trim a bit off the bogie to get sufficient clearance. It's worth the trouble and shunting wagons is fun with the magnetic uncoupling.

Says he having mislaid Hayfield's address...

I've now got my spare Ks cartic bogie indoors along with a spare side frame. I'll take a photo of them before I post them to Hayfield tomorrow.

I've got a re-wheeled Wrenn chassis going spare if anyone wants it. It's a good runner, has Romford wheels fitted and has hardly had any use. I used to body to fit on an etched chassis.

A British built double decker rolled over in Belgium a few weeks ago. a Bristol Lodekka with Eastern Coachworks body, very substantially built! It was on a wedding job and in high winds got blown sideways, the right side wheels went off the road into a rather soggy field and the bus rolled onto its side landing next to a canal. Several people had minor injuries. the bus was recovered and had 2 broken windows. I happen to know the owner and operator of the bus! It's now back in service.

Double deckers have to tilt to 38 degress not 28 degrees as mentioned above.

The pointwork looks good for a first attempt, well done.

Semmingly asking the obvious, are you putting the rail in the right way up? Many of us have tried to thread chairs on rails then found the rail was wrong way up! Also file a slight taper on the end of the rail before threading chair, it makes life easier.