51E

If you read the post that I quoted it says " the designers have needed to find space for a DCC decoder and small speaker". I was merely saying that the case for more weight is greater than the need for a small speaker if people are having trouble with 02's only being able to handle a couple of coaches. Personally yes I would say its down to the designers to get it right. No one should have to be fitting their own weight. As pointed out by someone else, the Hornby M7 had a similar problem so the 02 isn't alone. Even you point out more grunt will be needed for the Isle Of Wight locos and at the minute a few 02 models seem to be struggling with only a couple of coaches.

Room for a DCC decoder yes but room for a small speaker I wouldn't say is essential.. Surely enough weight for it to run in the first place is more important? Not much point having sound but going no where?!

Pretty sure if you look on Roxey Mouldings site you will find a couple of coach kits that you can build for the IOW.. If brass scares you SmallBrook Studio do a few and some wagons in resin.

Is it still just a plastic one?

Thought your Panto was fixed and non movable? Or has that changed?

Do you have a link??

Slip of the fingers and edited to correct class.. Was distracted by the other 2 posts going on about class 74, not that Hornby or anyone has announced one. And yes you a right they only used there pantograph in the sidings that had it but that's not the point i'm making. From the looks of things Hornby are making the Pantograph pose-able otherwise i'm not sure they'd of bothered on the prototype shown in the pictures. Its a added detail that I think is worth doing. Who knows, might even get someone to model one of the sidings with OHE.

Sorry Mike, I meant it being just a pose-able Pantogragh, Not that I think it would take a lot to make it a electrically working one. I don't think it matters if the pantograph was used much or not on a Class 71. Its there and should be pose-able. I still think it would be a step backwards to not make it pose-able. Lots of people seem to shout and moan about pushing detail forward or do pantographs not fall into that category??

Is that not just a step backwards? For starters it hardly looks a poor quality working one on the prototype model, but why make it a fix position pantograph if the options there to have a working one? It might seem a lot of work or a unnecessary expense to some but I think other would expect the pantograph to be movable.

Moulded dart or not. I've got 3 on order and I can't wait. Hope the birdcages are as nice!!

Not everyone saw the CAD images.. And anyway there's people at Dapol that are "paid" to check these things. Cheers

Hi George You might be better doing it as a late Southern one as you'd need to change the Dome to a flattened one, a shorter chimney and 2 safety valves instead of the 4. Cheers 51E

No problem George. You need to check what number you do as another difference between loco's is the number of boiler bands. Some had 3, others had 4. Not sure why. Cheers 51E