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Yesterday, I took some pictures for the CM of Ian Wilson's American HO layout...........
The layout contains much in the way of scratch-built structures.
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5 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said:Dare I say that whilst the bogie wheels have the correct Stanier bevel that same bevel is noticeably missing from the drivers? Strangely Hornby did the same with the recent 2MT
Good afternoon Mike,
I used 'standard' Romford/Markits drivers I had in stock of the correct (scale) 5' 8" diameter (actually, 5' 6", but that's more than made up for by the over-scale flanges).
I assume Markits makes the correct pattern wheel type (with the bevel) for all the BR Standards.
They're certainly available for the Brits (and Clans and 71000)............
I fitted them when I made this previously tender-drive Hornby Britannia into a loco-drive one using Comet frames.
The bevel is certainly there.
It's now the property of Graham Nicholas and works on Shap.
Later Hornby loco-drive Brits have the correct pattern wheels now...........
Though why Hornby's rendition of BR green varies so much is anyone's guess.
However, under weathering any 'oddity' is hidden (the work of Tom Wright).
The bogie wheels have been changed.
When 'I' took its picture on Little Bytham, it was hard to tell it was green!
A recent DJH Brit build of mine, certainly has the 'correct' wheels...........
Now painted/weathered by Geoff Haynes.
But, that was not always the case.............
This one has the 'generic' drivers supplied by DJH in the kit, though I changed the bogie wheels (painted by Ian Rathbone).
When Mick Peabody built this DJH Brit, he used the driving wheels supplied as well (though not the bogie wheels).
I painted it and Mick weathered it.
For years and years and years, Model Loco/DJH 9Fs I've built have run on the drivers supplied in the kits..........
With too many spokes!
Until Markits made the correct-type 9F driving wheel.
Still..............
At speed, counting spokes is difficult!
Regards,
Tony.
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50 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:
Looking good, Tony.
How will you replicate the firebox below the footplate? I found that difficult when I did my 75023, due to using a Portescap driving the middle axle. I would do it differently now.
Good morning Captain,
I, too, have arranged the drive on the middle axle, using a big Portescap.................
The lower firebox sections were made from brass sheet, cut to shape and soldered to the inside top of the frames.
One other thing I noticed was that with the new chassis, there was no representation of the bottom of the boiler. As luck would have it, I'd just acquired some dud Hornby A3 bits, so I used a section of one of the boilers from those. Though flat at the bottom, the effect works.
I've added plenty of lead ballast, too.
I know the Portescap will be visible between the boiler and the frames, but there'll be plenty of 'stuff' in the way when the loco is complete to mitigate this. And, from most viewing angles it won't be seen (a poor excuse, perhaps).
The thing is, this already works superbly!
Regards,
Tony.
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Little Bytham gets used a lot by manufacturers these days............
Peterborough North as well...
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The replacement Comet frames for the Mainline 75XXX..............
Fitted perfectly.
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9 hours ago, maico said:Good morning,
The absolute minimum radius this big engine will negotiate is 3'.
The rear frames are fixed to the main chassis.
With a swivelling inner truck carrying the pony wheels (there is precious little side-to-side movement, but enough for 3'). Anything less, then it's a ghastly RTR-style whole-swivelling unit or flangeless pony wheels (the later pair of Ivatt 'Princess Coronations', with the 'Delta' truck beneath the cab is better in this respect).
This 'Semi' was travelling so fast on Little Bytham that this was the best I could do to 'freeze' it!
The weight of Geoff Haynes' lovely painting obviously slowed it down a bit..............
Regards,
Tony.
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39 minutes ago, Flyingscotsmanfan said:
Hello Tony,
It was great to have both you and Mo over today. These pictures look amazing! You are welcome back to the Braintree and Halstead MRC anytime!
cheersPaul
Thanks for your help, Paul.
One can only take 'decent' pictures if the subject matter (I mean the whole layout, not my couple of locos) is of a high standard. Your club layout certainly is! It was a pleasure to photograph it.
Regards,
Tony.
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Mo and I have spent a splendid day at the Colne Valley HQ of the Braintree (I think) MRC, my photographing 'Little Colne'.
It's really rather nice.................
The group was kind enough.................
To let me take a picture of a couple of my (appropriate) locos on it.
Thanks chaps, and look out for it in BRM in the future.
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Fairburn 2-6-4Ts have been popular on Little Bytham...........
This is my own modified/detailed/renumbered Bachmann one, weathered by Geoff Haynes).
The prototype appeared on a train for Gorleston at Saxby one summer Saturday.
Another altered Bachmann one, brought a few years ago by some SR modelling friends.
I sold one from Brian Lee's collection, built from a DJH kit.
And another DJH example, from another collection.
Stanier 2-6-4Ts don't seem to have been anything like as numerous.........
Apart from the Peter Lawson one, this Hornby pair is all I've got in my photo library.
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Oh, I should point out from the post above that these three ex-GWR coaches are all that remain of Peter's carriages (which I've been selling - the ex-LMS and ex-LNER carriages went even before I needed to take their pictures; just an email or phone call!).
And, all that's left locomotive-wise is this pair..........
A DJH Fairburn 2-6-4T (Portescap-powered), now just £130.00.
And a Nu-Cast Stanier 2-6-4T, now just £90.00.
Anyone interested, please PM me.
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5 hours ago, Barry Ten said:
These earlier Hornby Collett coaches are a good basis for budget modelling. They can be picked up cheaply - get the ones with GWR bogies, not the 1970s ones with Mk1 bogies - and they are not bad representations of bow-end stock. To improve them, the moulded ends are blended in to the sides with filler, then the whole lot repainted and relined. I added SEF flushglaze, separate roof vents, MJT corridor connections and moved some of the chassis details around on the brake.
The restaurant car can also be made into a good model in GWR condition, but needs more work for BR condition.
Good evening Al,
Seen before a few weeks ago, but maybe forgotten by now............
Is this the same diagram as one of yours?
Built by Peter Lawson from a BSL kit, I'd originally asked £50.00, but now I'm asking £40.00.
Another ex-GWR carriage from a BSL kit, also now £40.00.
And a much-detailed/modified/weathered RTR autocoach, now £30.00.
Anyone interested, please PM me.
Regards,
Tony.
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Despite my getting that original Mainline 75XXX chassis to 'work' again, the racket from it has proved too much!
So, I've decided to put a set of Comet frames underneath it.
It looks as if they're designed to fit exactly underneath the body.
A Rolls Royce chassis underneath a (very) second-hand Ford 'Pop' body? Perhaps, but that body is very good, especially considering its age.
Can it be justified on Little Bytham? Very unlikely, though some 75XXXs were repaired at Doncaster. That being the case, if running-in, it would probably be clean.
Rule 1? Especially as I've got multiples of all the classes that would have been seen. Maybe one didn't turn left at Helpston!
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34 minutes ago, Harry Lund said:
Tony. Quick diversion. I'm putting together my 'Elizabethan'. The CWG which you kindly lent me lists BG, FK, RF, SO, etc. Can you shed light on the Diagram no of the RF? As ever, Giles
Good afternoon Giles,
Probably Dia. 354 (page 103 in LNER Carriages by Michael Harris, T&L 1994), built originally for service in the post-War 'Flying Scotsman'.
Regards,
Tony.
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6 hours ago, Coach bogie said:I do have to defend the 60 year old Triang chassis. I am still using them.
Coach building is my thing but I do need locomotives to pull them and rtr, as good as they are, struggle with the heavy coaches I make. I still use the indestructible B12 chassis in Wills/SEF Hall, Saint and Star kits- they were designed to take them and with the heavy Wills body, will haul 15 kit builds without slipping. My Gem 56XX is still running on a bushed Triang Jinty chassis 55 years after it was converted by my father.
I have also used Comet, Proscale and Perseverance chassis but I can have a Triang chassis running in far less time. of greatest importance - they work, especially if they have new Neodymium magnets and/or received a Scalespeed overhaul. When running I defy anyone to identify which has which chassis (apart from the RG4 whiner).
This one has the special Markits axles to fit without using bearings. Mainly trains connecting rods and brake gear.
I still have another Wills Saint to build. I was going to use a Comet Hall chassis but recently picked up a Triang B12 with Green wheels with a very clean X04 for £20. I already have the Triang/Romford axles and Neodymium magnet in stock.
Mike Wiltshire
Good morning Mike,
What isn't widely known is the fact that the Tri-ang B12/Hall chassis was the same block as used underneath Tri-ang's A3, but turned round and with larger drivers.
It's the one in the foreground, with block for the glowing firebox at the rear and extension for the cylinders at the front.
From the same 'duds' drawer, I bought enough parts to 'make' a Tri-ang/Hornby A3.
The bogie and the later valve gear needed modifying to suit this earlier (1960s) FLYING SCOTSMAN.
Someone had gone to great lengths to remove the moulded-on handrails, presumably intending to replace them with wire ones. I certainly won't, but will hand it over to an 'inexperienced' modeller (I have a 15 year-old in mind) to practise on.
Total cost? Little more than a fiver.
With still some bits left over! Including that other chassis/motion seen in the earlier shot.
Is that 'scale' seagull faecal matter?
Regards,
Tony.
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11 hours ago, ROY@34F said:I did exactly the same Tony with my Happy Knight , a Grantham engine in my early railway days . A Triang chassis with bushes ( I thought 9/64' O.D. ) , filed down Romford wheels using a Black and Decker drill clamped in a vice . Then fabricating bits for the multiple valve regulator , painting and lining with HMRS transfers . The valve gear I think was Alan Gibson parts built in forward gear , which I like to do , though I know you think I'm mad Tony ! ha ha . Mine too still runs ok after 40 plus years .
Fantastic stuff, Roy..........
Thanks for showing us.
My BLUE PETER (from much the same source as your HAPPY KNIGHT) still gets used.........
She has no problem in hauling heavy trains.
Granted, it's not in the same league as Bytham's other Peppercorn A2s; the likes of.............
TUDOR MINSTREL (DJH/Wright/Rathbone) on a Donny running-in turn.
OR BRONZINO (DJH/Wright/Rathbone).
Or SUGAR PALM (DJH/Wright/Haynes). Actually, 60526 isn't on Bytham at the moment; riding on her EM frames, she currently sees service on Retford.
Or my own HAPPY KNIGHT (Crownline/Kinsey/Wright/Rathbone).
Or even my detailed/renumbered/renamed Bachmann RTR VELOCITY (weathered by Tom Foster).
However,
Who knows? She might well be running in another 50 years' time!
Regards,
Tony.
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Thanks for all the comments on my 'budget modelling'; the discussions about wheels, bearings and axles have been enlightening.
As far as the Tri-ang Jinty goes, that really is as far as it goes. From an initial cost of four quid, by adding vacuum standpipes, ejector gear, buffers, lamps and a crew, plus the cost of paint and transfers, I've probably taken it over a tenner! And, that's the point in a way. By buying effectively 'duds', spending a little bit of time and resources, then a 'useful' model can be the result; at a very low cost overall. Yes, the Tri-ang wheels are gross, but they'll run on current set-track and Peco Code 100, which many modellers use.
I'm taking it no further; it's satisfied the brief.
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19 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:Oh, that's interesting, my memory is playing tricks with me. I could have sworn that I just fitted Romford 1/8" axles when I fettled my old Hornby pannier (although that is nearly 50 years ago now...)
Good evening Captain,
I had to fit Romford bushes to a Hornby Jinty chassis (over) 50 years ago to get Romford axles to fit (bushing the gear wheel as well). I then put a BEC J11 cast metal kit body on top of it, instantly becoming a 'scale' modeller. Where that dismal creation is now, I have no idea, though flushed with success...................
A year later, I did the same thing to a Tri-ang Britannia chassis, turning down the Romford wheels so that I could get all-flanged drivers, and made Jamieson valve gear for it. I latterly even fitted brakes!
What did it go underneath?
A modified Wills A2 kit, towing a DJH tender some years later.
A shot taken in Bytham's early days.
And one from last year.
Now in her 51st year (or thereabouts), I still keep her. The old XO4 still goes well, though not with the finesse of much more-modern motors.
If nothing else, with the whole thing being my own work, it shows how much (or how little?) I've progressed with my model-making in the last half century.
Regards,
Tony.
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I've just completed the latest pair in my series on 'budget modelling' for BRM.
I picked this up from the Grantham Model Shop after rummaging through the 'dud' drawers.
This Bachmann B1 was a bit dusty, and the split-chassis mechanism was in a bit of a mess! The centre drivers had slipped on their axle, effectively locking everything up solid - a not-unknown state of affairs. The previous owner's weathering of the motion with scale 'mud' didn't help, either. There was no tender. 'How much, please?'. 'A fiver!''. 'Done'.
On investigation, I released the wheels, twisted them back into quarter and pushed them back into their muffs, with a bead of superglue applied. I was amazed; it ran really sweetly! I've never seen an original split-chassis B1 run so well.
So, worth taking it a bit further? But, not as a St. Margaret's-allocated B1.
How about this one?
One day, I'll appear in a steam-age picture standing on Retford's Up platform.
Fortunately, thanks to readers' generosities of late, I had a spare Bachmann B1 tender.
Thus...............
With a change of identity, some detailing, the mud removed from the motion (new weathering applied), a crew on board and lamps fitted, I was astonished how well this previously-wretched runner bowled round Bytham.
Not bad for a fiver............
Will I keep it? I'm not sure, though if I do I'll make a Comet set of frames for it.
As I did.................
With this other Bachmann B1; detailed and weathered body by Geoff West.
What next?
This old Tri-ang Jinty was even less - just four quid (it might have been a fiver had it still got all its steps).
No buffers, a replacement step required and in need of new brushes for its ancient (though still-working) XO4.
And, after a few hours' 'fiddling' and a repaint..........
This what it looks like now - Crewe South's unique Darlington-shopped 47482.
This is obviously a 'staged' shot because not only do the gross flanges ride on the chairs, they're on the sleepers as well!
And, no, it's not on a Class 1 job, but is acting as station pilot.
Worth it for a bit of fun? I think so, and I'll probably give it away to a (worthy) young modeller (as long as he/she has Tri-ang track or its equivalent).
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Speaking of the P2s, especially the new-build 2007.....................
Having shot and had edited a video of Hornby's splendid 'smoking' model of PRINCE OF WALES, does anyone have a photograph of the real 2007 under construction, please? One which can be used in the video (with due credit), because trying to get copyright permission for a graphic from the A1 Trust's website is turning out to be beyond 'publication' dates.
If anyone has a shot we could use, please PM me.
Thanks in anticipation.
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10 hours ago, Compound2632 said:
Handsome is as handsome does, they say, and I never heard that these engines couldn't 'do'!
And I do like that 12-wheeler, while lamenting that it's not in its original Great Northern splendour.
The M&GN wagon is a curiosity. In fact pretty well all M&GN wagons are.
Good morning Stephen,
'Handsome is as handsome does, they say, and I never heard that these engines couldn't 'do'!'
Despite recent claims to the contrary, the A2/2s 'couldn't do' what they 'could do' as P2s (I'd sooner believe the first-hand writings of those now long-dead who worked the giants during the War than some more-recent work).
'Relegated' to English depots with little top-link work, they accrued the lowest mileage of any other LNER Pacific class, and (apart from three of the Raven A2s) 60505 was the first LNER-built Pacific to be withdrawn (at the 'tender age' of 16. Yes, I know SOLARIO went at much the same time with a cracked frame - at 36 years old! And, yes, some A1s only made 15, but they went as part of the mass cull in the '60s).
I wonder if any group is contemplating a new-build A2/2?
Regards,
Tony.
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3 hours ago, Compound2632 said:I thought I must have stumbled into the wrong thread. Lots of lovely 4Fs and now film adaptations of books. Where have the ugly big Pacifics gone?
Good evening Stephen,
Will this do?
It's certainly big and (very) ugly, in the form of Thompson A2/2 60504 MONS MEG (Crownline/Wright/Rathbone) hauling a train made by Ken Wilson.
Ken and his (real railway) driver mate, Andy Swan, popped down from Newcastle today for one of their twice-yearly visits to operate Little Bytham. They always bring things with them they've made; things of great interest, and today was no exception.
Interesting things such as.........
This Buffet Car built by Andy.
And this scratch-built M&GNR wagon; Andy's work, and a gift!
Some of the vehicles made by Ken included............
His BR version of the same Buffet Car.
This 12-wheeled Kitchen Car.
A steel-panelled Gresley BG.
And this suburban pair.
Thank you gentlemen, for your tolerance of my operating incompetence, your hospitality at lunchtime, the gift and for your donation to CRUK.
I'll leave it up to Ken to describe the models above.
Regards,
Tony.
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3 hours ago, maico said:
I watched Dunkirk at the South Bank IMAX. The director had been in and set the sound levels himself but for me it was way to loud. I had to leave before the end with my ears hurting. I think Christoper Nolan may have damaged hearing!
I don't have any problems hearing actors mumbling but some of the sound effects were ridiculous. For example, the return fire from the Heinkel was slow thumping canon fire but at that stage of the war the Germans and British had rifle calibre machine guns.
Good evening,
I don't know about the aerial weaponry in the later Dunkirk, but what stopped any belief in its authenticity was seeing green BR Mk.1s as the survivors journeyed back to London.
The original (John Mills) B&W Dunkirk from the late '50s was far superior.
Why is it that when railways are shown in movies (or on TV), very little thought seems to have been given to make sure they're 'accurate for period', or even place. James Bond, on his journey back from Istanbul in From Russia With Love, appears to be travelling overnight in an all-green train hauled by a Royal Scot! Shadowlands got it right, and Loughborough 'could have been' like Oxford in the film, especially as the locos were weathered.
Regards,
Tony.
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Possibly because one of our number was the son of a bookie? It was years later that I learned of the naming association with the Gees. What we most wanted of course was 'Streak!'
Good afternoon,
'Streak', of course. Shouted at the tops of our voices when one of those famous front ends made its presence felt at Gamston, Retford, Botany Bay, Bawtry, Doncaster, Selby, Riccall, Thirsk and Darlington - all the places where I saw an A4.
I suppose the epithet was a 1950s/'60s schoolboys' phenomenon - Eric Fry once chided me for using it in his presence; 'Streamliner', he said, but he'd seen them in their pre-War heyday.
Though I rather doubt it, wouldn't it be nice to hear '91'!, '91'! shouted in a pre-voice-breaking squeal at Retford today?
Regards,
Tony.
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5 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:
Alternatively: Racehorse!
That's what the little gang in short trousers that I was part of would have been yelling. This so typical scene led to a love of Doncaster's finest, which produced the 'Grand Parade of Flamboyant Velocity, placing the ECML Miles Beevor all other lines'. Sigh.
For Tony's benefit, I used that arrangement of pacific names in an essay on the topic 'memories of childhood', and dear JAG Walker graded it A+.
A splendid play on words, though I never heard of the A3s referred to as 'Racehorses' - only ever A3s in my short-trouser days.
CENTENARY was one of the few not named after an equine sprinter.
Years ago, a commentator once suggested a current loco (say a Class 47) should be named RED RUM, in honour of the National's most-famous multi-winner. A nice thought, though it showed an 'ignorance' of the policy of the LNER/BR when it came to naming its speedsters. All the equine names commemorated winners on the flat, usually the Classics.
Regards,
Tony.
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Seeing the couple of panned shots I posted earlier, prompted me to take some more this afternoon.............
Last year I bought this SE Finecast A4 off Geoff West, to whom I'd originally sold it some years earlier from the estate of the late Geoff Brewin.
I renumbered/renamed it from 60007 to 60032 (one of the last pair of A4s to retain a single chimney).
Today, I panned her going south.
Views such as this can be 'highly-critical'; note the wrong angle of the slidebars on this side (correct on the other side), rather like 'Hornby's with the rear end higher than the front.
Such views also 'invite' comparisons...........
With the likes of a Golden Age A4.
Despite this being superior to the old white metal A4 (it should be, considering it cost nearly ten times as much! Why I bought it I'll never know), I hold it in almost no affection. There's nothing of me in it (it's a real example of 'chequebook modelling'), whereas GANNET is a tangible memory of a late friend, with a little of me in it. 60032 gets used, while 60027 lives in its (rather swanky) box.
More panned comparisons..........
60847 (Crownline/DJH/Bachmann/Wright/Rathbone).
60885 (Nu-Cast/Comet/Wright/Rathbone).
60948 (Nu-Cast/Comet/Wright).
Observers can pick out the differences.
And, some B1 comparisons..............
61002 (Bachmann/Comet/Smallshire/Wright), complete with leaning-back cab. 61139 (Pro-Scale/Comet/Wright/Haynes weathering).
It leans forwards slightly.
And 61213 (Bachmann/Wright). A wreck of a thing, bought for a fiver just over a week ago.
Now, after a fair bit of work, a more-than-useful Bytham loco - a spilt chassis which works!
It needs the tender-to-loco gap narrowing, and a fall plate.
Then a further selection of panned shots.
61846 (builder/painter unknown); one I got running recently.
It leans forward a lot!
Power and speed epitomised; Tony Geary's superb DJH A1.
And, something of a contrast, 61553 (Coopercraft/Wright - one of only three Coopercraft B12/3s known to have been made to work, and all having run on Little Bytham).
These images show that (in some cases) I still have work to do.