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13 hours ago, adb968008 said:

I like the pony wheel representation, i’m intrigued to see how it handles curves in use, as short 8 wheel base.

However all the previous renditions of the 45 are a moulded rendition of the axle, where as this one is an extension of the wheel and thus rotates.

The pipe and lifting detail between the body and bogie is pretty good, as are the handrails.

The real selling point of this model is that it is a 45/1, weve never had one before with the right roof.

 

looking at the closeups of the blue ones, there seems to be a lot of black lining around the windows, i’m hoping its more subtle, or gone, on the production ones.

 

ive always felt the 45 is an under loved class, and from a modelling perspective its lots of tooling variations for very few liveries. Personally once ive a couple, i’m done. The 45 never seemed to be a huge seller for Mainline or Replica and more recently after the starvation of the Model Zone 45.. the 5 that followed have stagnated too. I just dont think 45’s are that popular.

 

 

This is true, but the "OO" compromise is that the hole in the bogie side that the axle sticks through has to be much bigger than on the prototype.

  So, which is best - a moulded axle with a correctly sized bogie aperture, or a rotating axle in an oversize one?

If the Class 47 is being modified - is this because it has competition for Bachmann perhaps ?

The EP's have had shape issues for a long time and Heljan didn't seem to be taking any notice of "feedback" from here before.

There were 2 types of speedo fitted to Class 25's.

All the class 24's and 25's up to D7597 (the last of the 25/2's) had the small "original mechanical speedometer", fitted to the outer axle under the drives position at number 1 end.

From D7598 on the control of the locos incorporated electronics to better control, amongst other things, the field diverts, and became 25/3's

Part of this modification was the fitting of an electronic speedo drive (see attached), which was fitted to the inner axle at number 2 end - second mans side.

This makes it easy to identify the difference between the later bodied 25/2 (mechanical) or an 25/3 (electronic) locomotives.

Unless of course you are Heljan and insist on calling a mechanically fitted 25/2 a 25/3!  

Yeah, why isn't the brake pipework hanging off the Bachmann one?

Come on Bachmann - sort your act.

14 hours ago, JR_P said:

"The underframe detail is adequate but not any better than the mk2a, for example. I’ve also noted that the a/c blower doesn’t look quite right and looks ‘shaved-off’ on the underside and whilst a minor gripe is visible from a side-on viewing angle. Additionally, the opposite side air tank has a cut-out on the ‘inside’ which again is kind of visible from a side-on angle."

 

 You mean like the real thing?

"Although the speedo cable looks good, surely it will deteriorate over time? "

And what is this based on?

For that matter so will the owner.

18 hours ago, SRman said:

The photos confirm my initial impression that the Bachmann version's windscreens are a little too deep for class 24 or 25/0. The Sutton loco has that right, I think.

Otherwise I do like what Bachmann have produced.

Where are the windscreens too deep?

(Apologies to D1051 for using his image)

I would think a GW 150 liveried example was a dead cert - the real one was a '117. 

I too am surprised by how transparent the radiator grille looks.

Judging by how sharp the shadow is from the gantry the image was taken in bright sunlight, which must have washed out the wire grille.

It would be great to hear how anyone thinks a manufacturer could replicate this? 

There's a review of the Bachmann shunter's truck (with a listing of the prototype trucks) by John Emerson online at:

 

https://www.model-railways-live.co.uk/Reviews/240/Bachmann_Shunters_Truck_reviewed_by_John_Emerson/

 

The two models represent different builds of truck - the Bachmann is a Diagram M3 whereas the Hornby is a later M4 Diagram.

Well, the report says Bachmanns trucks cover both diagrams.

Mind you, it also says the BR version has the lamp irons on the toolbox, which is at odds with the picture!