bude_branch

26 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

Only 571 and 563 remained after 1936. 571 was withdrawn 1943 still in Olive Green and 563 received unlined olive green with Bullied sunshine lettering in November 1939 and was first withdrawn in that livery in August 1945. 
Although not allocated BR numbers as such they would have simply been 30xxx

Thanks Graham.

A couple of quick questions if I may for those who know more about these things than me:

Did any of the T3's appear in unlined black during SR days and although withdrawn before nationalisation, were any of them allocated BR Numbers?

Following the great forum meltdown, I have now restored as many of the lost pictures as I can.

16 hours ago, AY Mod said:

 

It's the logical extension of what you did say though. You want what relates to your niche, well everyone else would too and then I'd have to list every manufacturer of every scale around the whole world.

 

Feel free to have a go at that yourself.

Unfortunately, we seem to be at cross purposes here.  I don't want anything, it was you that asked for information from us, I was simply querying why the type of information requested varied by scale.

30 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

So I should include all manufacturers for all scales? There's a limit to keeping something manageable.

No, that was not what I was suggesting.

Slightly confused I'm afraid.  The section for scales includes G Scale, but the section for Brands bought does not include LGB etc?

2 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

It's all a balancing act; I do have the benefit of looking at Analytics to measure visits, visit durations and number of page views to get some facts behind it and what affects it vs. ad revenue.

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the further info.  I suppose if you're not worried about it, then I shouldn't be either.

1 hour ago, AY Mod said:

 

Sometimes; maybe. Sometimes not. It all depends on the ad-techies.

 

Intentional? Who knows.

 

I recommend becoming a Premium member if it's an issue.

Thanks Andy,

My concern is that the present pop up arrangements will put off new members who, when they first come across the site, will know nothing about being a Premium Member and may not stay long enough to find out.

I guess this is one for Andy,

Normally I stay well out of these discussions, but I do have a question.

Is it the intention in future to feature pop up adverts (particularly videos as is currently the case) that can not be closed?

Many thanks.

On 22/07/2017 at 17:59, bude_branch said:

Somewhere I have some photographs of the exquisite signals he built for the Club's 00 layouts which I would like to have posted here, unfortunately I've not yet been able to find them.

Well, I'm afraid it's taken me five years but I eventually found what I was looking for:

These are all LSWR signals that Henry built for Nonsuch, the Epsom & Ewell Model Railway Club's 4mm scale Southern Layout.

From left to right, the Loop Up Starters, the Down Main Outer Home and the Up Main Starters.  These were of soldered construction and built from scratch, mainly in brass with a few white metal castings.

The pictures come from an article published in Model Railway Constructor in November 1963.

18 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

Photo by Phil Durrell : 50 030 c.1981 / 82, not sure where but might be Salisbury...

 

Not Salisbury I'm afraid, the canopy structure is wrong.

6 minutes ago, ikcdab said:

What is the reason for having two brakes on a three coach set?

The amount of Parcels, Post Office Mail, Newspaper Traffic and Passengers Luggage that was carried in those days.  It also enabled the Guard to ride at the rear of the train without remarshalling when a set changed direction.

First off, full marks to Bachmann/EFE for producing a Set 314 in BR(S) green, I'm sure they will be popular with Southern Modellers of the early BR Period.

Looking closely at the pictures, the three coaches are numbered S2981, S5043 and S2679, whereas I would have expected to see S2981S, S5043S and S2679S.

I was wondering if any of the resident experts know which is correct?

13 hours ago, melmerby said:

It also claimed to have generated electricity on the journey.

The railway equivalent of a hydro electric pumped storage scheme perhaps?  Run all the units up the line at night, then let them come back down during the day when the demand for electricity is highest.

Personally I can live with the latest green used by Bachmann and I'm now hoping they will use this green for all their new Bulleids.  What I wouldn't want to see is a different green in the same train or set.

On 23/10/2022 at 12:56, Oldddudders said:

Important point, Nigel. 15 x 2-set (R) workings per day, when there were only 13 such sets - 63-75. By contrast there were 40 Dia 2406 BCKs, all loose vehicles - i.e. never formed into sets, except in just one or two cases. 

I think we've both forgotten that a further 2-Set (R), No 76, was created using BSK 4282 and BCK No 6713.

On 26/10/2022 at 09:57, Dunsignalling said:

Interesting that the 11.00 am departure, The Atlantic Coast Express, includes a BCK for Honiton.

 

This coach and those for Sidmouth and Exmouth would follow the main train down from Salisbury as stated, but unlike the junction stations for the East Devon branches, there would have been no engine present at Honiton to deal with a detached coach, nor anywhere to put it.

 

John

 

     

As Stovepipe has said above, the Honiton BCK went forward as part of the 12.36 p.m from Salisbury to Exeter Central.

11 hours ago, RFS said:

 

Yes, 16 BCKs indeed but are you sure they are all Bulleids? Many Maunsell BCKs were still in use at the time, plus I've seen a couple of photos with MK1 BCKs too. 

At this time all 40 of the Diagram 2406 Bulleid BCKs were allocated to the Western Section, No's 6714 - 6752 for Waterloo - West of England services, whilst 6713 (along with BSK 4282) had been used to form 2-Set (R) No 76.  As far as I am aware the only other loose BCKs allocated WoE services were No's 6595, 6643, 6646, 6648, 6655, 6662, 6672 and 6673, which were normally used for additional summer/weekend services and to provide maintenance cover.

Accordingly, it would seem highly likely that the majority of vehicles in use on winter weekdays would be Bulleid BCKs.

As well as banging on about the Diag 2406 BCK on here, I also send Bachmann an occasional e-mail in case they have forgotten about it.  This is the most recent reply received yesterday, which doesn't sound particularly hopeful: 

I’m afraid I cannot confirm any upcoming releases of an SR Diagram 2406 Brake Composite Coach.  I’ve had added it as a suggestion to our product suggestions database, which is periodically reviewed by our Research & Development team when they are considering future products.

In an attempt to help make the case, assuming someone from Bachmann might read this, here are the daily departures from Waterloo on the West of England Line.  Daily totals for the current Bachmann vehicles are 6 x 2-Set (R) and 4 x 3-Set (L), whereas there are a total of 16 BCKs in use, including no less than 6 on the 11.00 a.m.

BCK Workings - Waterloo.pdf

9 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

I was pointing at Bachmann, really. As Mr Spams points out, there will be some double-counting of 2-sets, as they come and go, and I've already identified above the shuttling of 2-sets west of Okehampton. But with just 13 Dia 2405s and 40 Dia 2406s - which would you choose to make first? The latter were everywhere in the WoE Division by comparison - even the Halwill-Torrington branch had a 2406!

Ah, I'm with you now.

Basically, I was trying to make the same point - if you stood on the platform at Exeter Central from 5.12 a.m. until 9.53 p.m., you would see 15 x 2-Set (R) and 27 x BCK, although you might see the same one more than once during the day.

4 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

Important point, Nigel. 15 x 2-set (R) workings per day, when there were only 13 such sets - 63-75. By contrast there were 40 Dia 2406 BCKs, all loose vehicles - i.e. never formed into sets, except in just one or two cases. 

I'm afraid I seem to have missed the point here, you've lost me Ian.

On 22/10/2022 at 18:23, Torn-on-the-platform said:

Please could someone advise what the 2-car R sets would be marshalled in with when part of longer trains? The blood and custard pages are a really good resource but I've not managed to find the information I'm looking for. I've seen lots of references to how they can represent a branch-line portion of mainline trains. Would they be seen tagged onto the end of H or L sets? Or even in combination with 59' 3-car sets or formations of Maunsells/Mk1s?

 

Ideally I'd prefer a H set in BR Green, but as with those waiting for maroon Thompsons, who knows if and when we will see that, and who knows what the price of a single carriage will be by the time they appear.

The attached documents for a typical weekday in September 1961, show the formation of all trains at Exeter Central that included a 2-Set (R).

I have also included a pdf version 2-Set (R) Workings - Exeter Central.pdf

Incidentally, whilst there are 15 x 2-Set (R) workings per day, for the Diagram 2406 Loose BCKs there are 27.

Early bus into town this morning to collect a 2-Set (R) in BR(S) green from my local model shop.  I am very pleased with the overall quality of both coaches, (Semi Open Brake Third and Brake Composite).

The shop owner asked if I would be back for more and was told yes, as soon as Bachmann produce a Diagram 2406 loose Brake Composite and a 3-Set (L), (BT/CK/ BT), all in BR(S) green.

Perhaps we might get an indication of future Bulleid coaches at Warley?

Hopefully, first up will be a diagram 2406 BCK, closely followed by a 3-Set (L), all in BR(S) green.

8 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

The only change was the location of the toilet moved from one end to the middle of the coach to give easier access for both classes.

Thanks Graham that sounds perfectly reasonable.

I was wondering as early in my railway career I was once told by a shunter at Clapham Yard that, as these coaches were frequently coupled and uncoupled, the toilet had been placed in the centre to keep the outlet away from the couplings etc.