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I think this sums it up, and it seems to be more profitable for Sam lately to take potshots at Hornby. Critique is fine if you don't like the gimmicks, but I don't really see anything that is lesser than some of the other top regarded models today (especially ones that seem prone to crumbling parts). And any other person would probably have sent it away to Hornby repairs department.

That's sort of how I feel tbh. I'm not currently into TT:120, but I have flirted with the idea of a smaller scale, of which TT:120 and 009 are contenders for me. I don't currently see any plausible reason to downplay TT right now given that, it's so young in its existence in the UK RTR market. There is clear interest in the scale (otherwise we wouldn't have a 300 page forum post dedicated to the subject recycling the same viewpoints. It has people's attention). Seeing more layout concepts in TT. More traders. And Hornby are selling. More internationally adept models are going to be produced e.g. 66. Surely that growth... any growth... can only be positive for the hobby and Hornby? If a real niche like EM & P4 can get a foot in the door with manufacturers... if N-scale and 009 can grow to the acclaim it has today... then surely TT can too?

Multiple Units : Any type or price that is current with today's expectation is fine with me. Just as long as the lead-up time is slightly longer than usual (1.5 years). I think that paces them out more. Lots of obvious winners : Electrostars and 313s mentioned to death, but also the 465s, Voyager retools. Class 325 aswell since minimal interior is required and can be easily sold as packs.

Hehe I know (built a few myself). Just speaking relative to Airfix. I don't see a lot of modern-image wagon kits floating about. (maybe I'm blind)

Always thought selling wagon kits would have been a good idea. Instead of paying £30-£50, you could build your own TEA's or 7-Planks, and then get a waterslide sheet to renumber/livery as you please.

From the Rivarossi 2024 catalogue With that said, some things don't match up :D But my best guesstimate.

Even though TT:120 is not my scale currently (I have floated the idea a few times for a shelf layout)... the presence at Warley and GETS I think is irreversibly setting the scale's presence. Not only did PECO and Hornby have impressive displays, but so did other vendors and stalls. What's more, is that Hornby seems to be showing a certain pace to trying to convert their "staplehold" locomotives. I do think Heljan may be looking at this, and trying to figure out what Diesel/Electric locos they could snipe off Hornby before they get bored. Incidently, there is a market gap for multiple units in TT, so potentially something for Revolution to get involved.

Most plastic-injected models will start out like this, especially if its high on detail.

Many thanks, will have a read tonight. Apologies if this thread comes across as "basic" :D

Hey folks, not entirely sure if this is the correct forum to post in. Currently in the middle of some EMU modelling, but I have 0 experience in motorisation and designing the bogies. Is there a "Go-To" standard or recommend book? My main concerns are - Fitting of a compact motor unit. Either directly into the bogie or via some sort of driveshaft. Wheels are pretty compact at 10mm/10.5mm - More importantly, how to design a bogie with appropriate swivel (both left/right and up/down). - How to best design the chassis to accomodate.

- Having duplicates means the consumer is more likely to get the type of model they actually want e.g. Hornby vs Rapido Lion. Cost or detail appropriate - Duplication forces manufacturers to actually seek out the more obscure... unseen prototypes - If that duplicate is indeed popular, then there is more of a chance the consumer can obtain it in quantity - In this particular example, there's still a chance Heljan couldn't undercut Bachmann in this instance - Would be nice in an ideal world, but realistically... manufacturers are not going to share their menus for the next 5 years. Some manufacturers may have that inherent trust (I believe I can find a quote saying Accurascale held off on Wessex sets because of another manufacturer). I don't consider the topic to be that black and white tbh, and no-one seems to have a sensible solution.

I don't get this whole duplication argument. You want a competitive industry, but only the little guys can duplicate (or manufacturers can't be allowed secrets). Can't have your cake and eat it too...

To be fair, I think in this case... you've taken many different products and attempted to lump them under the same context. In reality, each actually has its own relevance (both to time period and market) and levels of success. As for TT, I don't think it was ever intended to fully replace OO. It would be almost impossible simply due to the historical range of items. What it does do, is give Hornby a foothold in the smaller-scale market... and a renewed lease of rolling stock choice. Likely it will develop to be as niche as N-Gauge is today (which itself will also develop). There are also still gaps left in the OO market which Hornby could explore. They could also go back to making duplicates (I don't think the market necessarily minds them... but they will almost always try to grab the one that is most competitive... and that may be a challenge for Hornby to think about. It would require more radical thinking on their part...)

Been joking around with a few friends on discord... but it could possibly be a PCV.

FTFY