Hymek17

Very intersting read. I drive a shunter on the Helston Railway, and we are currently replacing the track from Truthall Halt back towards Helston.

1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:

6167

 

Slough 16/11/1935

Southall 11/6/1964

Withdrawn 10/1965

 

Source Prairie Papers

 

 

Jason

Took a photo of 6167 on the last steam hauled freight on the Maidenhead to High Wycombe line, many, many years ago...........

Got mine this afternoon. It's a bit heavier than the Hornby model, but the driving wheels are around 1mm too small. Quite noticeable when next to Hornby's model. Not had a chance to run it yet though!

On 18/10/2021 at 16:24, WestRail642fan said:

im really tempted to buy the NDM and use it for parts for the dummy NDM that comes with the 7 coach pack

I have just asked Hornby technical if it would be possible to buy the motor and bogies to convert the unpowered unit. I was told that would be uneccessay as both NDM's in the 7 car set are already powered! I'll wait and see. They will need four decoders though!

21 hours ago, PenrithBeacon said:

I have used AGW short valve gear rivets to articulate coupling rods with complete success.

Thanks David, I'll look into these.

22 hours ago, hayfield said:

 

 

Hope you feel a lot better soon,  

Thank you John.

Thanks Mark. I wanted to use the Bill Bedford coupling rods, which are not the main problem. It's the connecting rods which attach to the slide bar crosshead that are giving me the headache. The Bachmann ones are joined with a small cast in 'rivet' which is too large to fit the Bill Bedford rods. I don't know if those made by Markits will fit the Bachmann set up or whether anyone else had done the conversion and knew what bits worked OK. I'll have a look on Gibsons site to see if there is anything suitable as well It looks like I'll be having to try out a few things myself.

Thanks again to everyone for the information, it is much appreciated.

19 hours ago, Tim V said:

Well, that was a waste of time replying!

 

Not even a thank you.

I've just read your article Tim, which was very informative. Sorry I did not reply sooner.

Many thanks for all your replies, much appreciated and a lot of ideas for me to follow up on. Sorry I did not reply sooner, but I'm receiving Chemo and have been feeling unwell since I put up the request and have only just seen all your responses.

I'm converting a Bachmann 45xx to P4 using Ultrascale wheels and the Bill Bedford Coupling and Connecting rod set.  I would be very grateful for any details and advice from anyone that has done this conversion, on how to fit the rod to the slide bar crosshead, along with what items I could use to fit the coupling rods to the Ultrascale crankpins, as the conversion kit is designed to use the existing Bachmann items.

Thanks for the clarification.

Is the APT the tooling 'lost' by DJ Models????

Thanks to this forum, I have now contacted the liquidators. Don't hold out much hope though as I paid via PayPal and most people here who also have, say they're not interested.

I have only just found out about this. No-one has notified me, so I wonder how many others still don't know?

Have added my details to the form and updated the totals.

No problem, I take it your address is in the parcel?

Pete

Thanks for posting the photos Pete, I wish I had seen them while I was doing the research, it would have made life a lot easier.

 

Ian

I wish I'd known you were going to do one earlier!!  :-))

Very interesting. The SDR one, that is to a later diagram than the GWR one, has 7’ bogies?

 

Tim T

Modelling Cwm Cynon in EM

Probably not the originals.

Last couple - I hope they are useful?

A couple more.

I've attached a few photo's and detail shots from the Gloucester And Warwickshire Steam Railway.

I've attached a few photo's and detail shots from the South Devon Railway.

Thanks everyone for your replies, it is most helpful. The mystery deepens however, as some of the Hornby coaches I have looked at seem to have different bogies types attached to the same model number. I think I will just stick with the ones I have got and be damned - but puzzled and frustrated!

I have since returned to Winchcombe on the Gloucester and Warwickshire to re-check the bogies on the 'Monster' and they are actually 9'0" centres - I am even more confused now. I may stick with the new Hornby ones as they are the right pattern visually, and will anyone notice the 2mm difference in the bogie wheelbase more than the length and position of the spring ends?

There were three types of Pressed Steel bogie. The 'passenger' version with long springs and long footboards. The freight version with short springs and short footboards.  The 'Centenery Stock' version with long springs and short foot boards. No footboards appeared on some official photos, but did they enter traffic like this? 

Many thanks for that, it is much appreciated. So I assume the correct one for the Passenger Brake is the shorter springed version as fitted to the earlier Hornby models, and not those that appear to be fitted to the later version? I also believe the shorter version is fitted to the Siphon 'G', is that correct?

Can someone please clarify a very perplexing problem for me please. Not being very knowledgeable about Hawksworth coaches, I have recently bought a Hornby R4404 Passenger Brake, but I have noticed that the bogies appear different to those on the latest models. The ones on my sample appear to be 8'6" bogies, whereas the later appear to be 9'0". After a lot of research I managed to find this model as they are the correct ones for a model of the 'Monster' I am building which is on the GWSR at Winchcombe. They also appear to be the same as those fitted to the Siphon 'G', but other than the one I have managed to obtain, I have been unable to find the correct bogie available from any other supplier. All other Hornby models of Hawksworth coaching stock appear to be fitted with GWR 9'0" Pressed Steel Bogies or similar. The most prominent difference between these two, apart from the wheelbase, is the length of the springs and where they finish in relation to the bogie frame. I am now left with an extremely nice model, for which I would like to obtain the correct pattern bogies. All help in identifying both bogie types would be much appreciated as I am now unsure of the correct pattern for this Hornby model.

I have attached three photo's (two of which were taken at Winchcombe in June 2018) which I hope will show the differences between the two.