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I hear you. I have one still, just done it up, immaculate. Height of sophistication is the manual choke 😀.

Probably yes: https://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/ford/escort+mk1/45c2c5ed-a9d3-6c70-b7ed-bbe76572d4e6 😀 regards

I’m actually modelling a brickworks and so am having some 3d printed stacks made up. The fineness of 3d printing is incredible. What few photos of bricks from Oakwell indicate they are somewhat longer than twice their width. Their is also the problem of lens distortion and lack of fine focus. In the end I have decided to try a bit over 10”x 4.5” x 2.5” and see what they look like on the CADs. Thankyou for the additional links. regards

G’day All, I am trying to identify how big these bricks/blocks are from Oakwell Brickworks at Ilkeston. I can see that they are four times longer than they are thick, and about twice high as they are thick. In the images below they are stacked in long files in parallel to form larger stacks with each file being finish with a hollow cross stack. Anyway, despite counting courses, and comparing that with everything from the wagon width (about 8’) and the man pushing the barrow, (5’4”), See these three images: I am trying to get their dimensions. see also: https://eastmidlandsnamedbricks.blogspot.com/2017/01/oakwell-brickworks-ilkeston.html although the 1965 image may show a different pattern of brick. regards https://picturethepast.org.uk/image-library/image-overview/poster/dmag102501/posterid/dmag102501.html

So what happened next with this build ? :) regards

It is taking him forever to build the layout. :) regards

Re reading dome of these interesting discussions reminded me of this accident: https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BoT_LudgateHill25Jan1879.pdf Early days, a facing point, with locking bars and no lock. The locking bars stopped the signalmen from reversing the points under a train, but there was no lock on the facing point to keep it in position. regards

When Hattons is moved to the Defunct, dormant or demised, which cannot be long now. regards

Maybe not, maybe at most a small addition to a sideline. Maybe otherwise Hattons would still be here. regards

Thankyou All. I have some pictures of diamond pavers at a station in LMS miscellany, not much like Oakamoor which is the oddest I have ever seen. regards

I was looking at a 1910 picture of the above main platform in a book by Essery, and it appeared to me that the main surface was actually made up of bricks laid in rough columns. Can anyone confirm this? Subsequently it appears to have been bitumenised. regards

Hmm, Very sad. I used Hattons a lot here downunder. Reliable, good postage rates, great range. regards

Do you have a picture? regards

Maybe, but not trivial. A bit OT , but as a rough guide Shanghai to Amsterdam is about a smidgin under 1tonne of carbon per container for the journey. A delivery truck about 300 grams per tonne - kilometre. And yes both of these ignore the lifetime carbon cost of manufacture (new steel about 1.5 tonnes per tonne) and recyling of the transport medium, and how long that lifetime is etc. etc. Regards

Eh? Inasmuch as the comment I was commenting on could be taken to suggest that if the jobs had gone to Australia rather than India I would have found that okay , I was disagreeing with that. I would be equally unhappy despite being in Australia myself (and likely a beneficiary of cheaper product). My further comments were pointing out the reasons: If you keep making stuff overseas, and you do not make things yourselves that other people want , then eventually you go broke, and that there is also a damaging impact on the environment when goods are shipped halfway across the world. YMMV :)

Pretty disappointed. :). And I live here. :). It is the nature of things but what happens when a vountry you run out of things of your own to sell to buy the things you are having made overseas and consider the environmental impact etc. regards

Pretty disappointing, and gor a whole range of reasons. TBH I think Hornby has long since had their day. Year on year there seems to be endless crises, a new wonder solution and the crises roll on. And frankly there are plenty of other suppliers out there who will fill any gaps. It just could be time to let go. I really do wonder how much value is left in the brand names they own, and to some extent the value of the tactile products they make in an increasingly virtual immersive 3d world. Who really wants some of this stuff apart from collectors? They are not toys for children at the prices of Corgi for instance :) my 2c. regards fyi 10 yr share price: https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/h/Hornby-plc-ordinary-1p

Thanks for that. I am not sure I have seen either but quite interested if there are any known. Mostly ash, paving slabs and or gravel and later bitumen. regards

Does anyone know if setts or cobbles were ever used on railway goods platforms/ loading docks? I have some spare plastic embossed sheet so thinking of using it up. regards

Well prototypical for a lot of heritage railways desperate to make some money in current climate so can hardly blame Hornby for trying every possible revenue stream. :) regards

I am pretty sure it is just a milk tank wagon. Chasing the history of its antecedent selves is, whilst a great piece if scholarship and really quite interesting (at least to me), but you could equally focus that history on wheels, bearings, chassis, valve and cap fittings. Etc. It’s not really been created anew from the spare parts box :) regards

I suppose if we accept that the Hattons and Hornby generic four and six wheelers are a step in the right direction I cannot really argue, but I much prefer if something is right in its construction in at at least one livery. All the best. :)

So, like the generic Hornby steel under framed mineral wagons :) ? For me anyway I want the earlier 4 wheel versions. I don’t like your chances. regards

Well after further thought, and actually getting down and dirty with some straight edges and locos, it seems that just raising the post and bracket height to about 21’ or more above platform height enables visibility of the entire bracket from any distance except to a small part of the lower part of the bracket right at the first encounter with the canopy corner. Even then the entire bracket is easily seen by crossing to the right hand side of the cab. It also lifts the bracket arm higher than the footbridge. So I will forget about A, and concentrate on B and C. Options include bracketing the arms all the way over the track (B1) with a siding and two reduced length arms, not bracketing the arms all the way over but otherwise the same as B1 (the test measurement case), and using full size arms and a siding arm (B3), but otherwise as B2. B2 is my preferred option at this stage, and matches well with the LNER booklet on structures, standard spacing and sizes. I would probably go for somersault arms. A gantry is still an option. regards

Having decided to move the home signal up to much closer to the toe of the facing points, I now need to redesign the actual signals. The signals will be for the Main, Branch, and Siding. Sighting precludes the existing design as there are the following constraints: - canopies on both platforms which would prevent good visibility of signals mounted to the left (or right) - platforms which by preference require the faces of any structures 6’ from the edge. - a lattice footbridge in advance of the signals which will make for an awkward background. Given the likely original construction (about 1890), some tighter clearances would be an option, but probably not if modernised. So the options include a couple of very tall single posts , perhaps with a tie rod at the top (A). A left or right hand unbalanced bracket with a long cantilever and three dolls. (B1 or B2), and a small gantry with three dolls, either pendant or normal. ( C1 or C2). I have the option of two full size and one miniature arm, or two reduced length arms and one miniature arm. If a gantry, a wooden one will be preferred such as at Wembley Hill: https://www.steve-banks.org/prototype-and-traffic/236-signals-and-signal-boxes . All are more or less justifiable having regards to examples at Seghill, (albeit 1965, on the front cover of Essery’s Railway Signalling and track plans.), Firsby South Junction on on the back cover of Vanns’ Illustrated History …GNR signalling, and Sleaford West - Vanns, p.80. . Sketch to follow. regards.