coline33

Thanks, Andrew, I had not seen this article by David.   From memory he was a member of CCB and had a model clay rail layout upon which he concentrated on road vehicles and shipping.   I feel sure he contributed to the files on both non-rail subjects.   One day I hope to get my clay rail stock out of storage if only for a run round my dining room table layout based on Hornby sectional track and KMRC buildings!   Colin.

Thanks, Andrew, for bringing Heavy Transport to the fore.   In the old CCB website there were folders on road vehicles and ships.   I have checked through the items I was able to save but alas only the rail items are there.   I love the last photo which gives proof that you can use those modern refuse bins on a 'modern image' layout!   

Wishing you all the very best you can make of this year's Christmas and trust things will improve in the New Year.   Colin.

No, the CCB Yahoo Group did not go elsewhere.   With Nick emulating Tom Sawbridge abroad and I having problems being recognised by Yahoo as a member, the Group site just elapsed into the ether.   

I loved watching the operation of "Wheal Elizabeth" at shows and also for its flexibility of era.   "Minion" looks great for the steam era so how about having a "Denise" for the diesel era?   Or maybe you have already built that!

4 hours ago, Furness Wagon said:

IMHO probably the best period to model a China clay works would be some where around 1919-23 as the amalgamation of all the smaller companies into ECC would allow you to have different PO wagons at the same Linhay at the same time. To keep people's interested having the same stock running in and out would be a bit boring for an operator let alone those watching.

Marc

Yes, Marc, but I would extend the period to 1930 as the GWR also converted some of their absorbed wagons into the clay trade.   BR in fact did exactly the same thing in transferring some of the general POs acquired into clay service by the 1950s.   Both World Wars created in peacetime an increase in clay loadings urgently requiring more wagons than available.   I agree that the use of the named POs is far more attractive to the uninitiated than BR grey ones where to appreciate the wagon differences requires an expert knowledge.

Yes, Rob, that is why my china clay line remained in the BR steam and early diesel days in the limited space of an extended dining room table!!!   But my "Polbrook" clay works buildings are those from KMRC with a halt for passenger trains between Wadebridge and Bodmin plus through freights.   Result is a lot of movement in the limited time the layout is in place.   Nice to have the space for modern image operations but if it was for me then the passenger service Newquay to Par would have to be rerouted!   But it is great to see the work that has been put into Rosevear.

On 01/01/2020 at 01:21, autocoach said:

We had a fairly active yahoo group that fell afoul of the many changes of ownership of yahoo and the devastation of the online forums (the new owners were worse than ole Smaug.).  There was considerable information in the files of that group that described not only the railway transport of china clay but the whole process. Coline33 of this parish was the owner of the yahoo group and I have just offered to help reconstruct it on the groups.io platform where most of the active yahoo forums have migrated, Hopefully we will be able to move the files that we have saved from yahoo there too. 

Thanks for mentioning the CCB Yahoo Group.   Firstly I was not the Group Owner (GO) and changes in the manner Yahoo made to signing-in prevented my entry into the site to continue my role of Moderator whilst the GO spent much of his life abroad.   The GO too had problems in communicating with Yahoo.   I have started the new year with further applications (with two from ' down under') to join which I can only forward to GO via personal email for approval.   In confirming that the approvals were granted the GO has found the site 'empty'.   Fortunately, last year on receiving the formal Yahoo notification of their changes and knowing the problems that another of my groups had experienced and changed course, I was able to download and save the content that I had contributed.   My work was mostly from CMR through to BR early diesel era with wagons to the fore!   So I am now responding to requests for data direct and anyone wanting help is welcome to contact me.