Clock O' The North

On 20/05/2020 at 05:37, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:

Suggests torque reaction is evident because the body has freedom to roll (about the long axis of the loco) in one direction of rotation. A little packing between one bogie top and chassis underside should minimise the visible effect. I would only want to do this on one end to avoid restricting the model's ability to adjust to track irregularities.

 

I have done this on Hornby's Brush 2 mechanism, which rolls very visibly in both directions of rotation when starting, and can be made to roll side to side on the spot.

 

I will be interested to hear what you find and decide, having not 'dug into' this model's mechanism at all.

Cheers Mate. Worked a dream. A double layered 0.01" thick packing underneath both sides at one end worked a treat. Running like a dream now. Thanks.

G'day All,

Finally received my 21 in the mail after far too long. Put it on the track to run it in annnd it lurches. It appears to lurch to one side before the motor kicks in. It only lurches in one direction. Runs fine once moving. Any suggestions on how to cure?

Cheers

Makes me think think of a class of Australian loco though it will take me a while to work out which so hopefully someone with more knowledge will also see that and tell you all which one

Could the Victorian Railways DD Class or the New South Wales 30 Class.

I'd just like them to state categorically whether or not previously announced models such as the revised J72 and V2 will ever actually be made.

There are final livery sample photos around of the J71 and J72, so it will be made. The V2 is another kettle of fish.

Well I did suggest a few pages back a class 88 it's not been done yet.

I'm pretty sure Dapol picked up the license for the 88 when they picked it up for the 68.

I had a problem with one of the latest Pecketts having a rotational bind.

 

Trouble was traced mis-adjusted pick ups on the front axle permanently biasing the front axle to the left hand side by taking up the axle sideplay. This in turn caused the left crank pin bold head to contact the rear of the crosshead.

 

The pic might show what was happening a little better.

 

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I affected a cure by making up some split plasticard washers that slipped over the axle between the rear boss of the wheel and the axle bearing to eliminate the sideplay and keep the axle centered.

 

I found the washer method easier than trying to equalise the pressure on the pick ups.

 

P

I had a similar problem with my Black Peckett, which wasn't present on the MSC and H&P versions. The problem, at least in my case, was the connecting rod was rubbing on the top crosshead guide. By ever so slightly bending the connecting rod inwards, the problem was resolved. I hope this helps, as at least on mine, it seems to run a whole better. 

Good evening.

More work has been done on this. In fact it is nearly completely finished. A few things to do, including add figures, and some more details

Sorry. I didn't realise your intention was to post it. I just thought I'd ask

Some of us have been saying this for some time, and the facts have shows that trends identified years ago continue to be the same. Even when there were engines being started for the Hornby move to GE and Bachmann's move to GC it was obvious that NER was being overlooked, as they chose areas further south, which was odd, given the sheer size of the North East Region was massive compared to these two and would offer a better and wider area to exploit for future releases.

 

Taking information from the previous 4 years of wish list polls as a sample - the trends of what was seen previously continue, in so much that the NER is a popular area that shows up in polls as requesting engines, thus meaning demand is there. To show this I have gone back over the Eastern Region results from the last wishlist polls from 2013 to 2016. To collaborate results a simple test was used. The first 10 engines of each area of the LNE were listed and their votes totalled up, the same test was also given to LNE group standard designs as a comparison.

 

The first result is displayed in the graph below:

 

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What is immediately noticeable is the way in which the North East Region area polls strongly. This is compared to the other area that does well as a pre-grouping area, being the Great Eastern. The other two, being GN and GC poll significantly lower, despite some engines being made for these areas, the results would show that follow up models for these areas don't always increase demand in others to follow. While I can understand Bachmann's apparent logic in choosing an area between the East and Midlands to run, so you'd get cross reference across regions, I still think this sub range has not really pushed a scene overall. In fact, for some years GN, GC and NBR did not get 10 engines onto the poll at all, with votes for these engines being significantly below engines of similar age and role from the NER and GE areas. It also explains their positions on the graph but reinforces the idea that demand for these engines is a lot less. The release of the Atlantic, Stirling Single and J50 for the GN area was a big demand fulfilled and the drop after these are done is obvious.

 

Hornby's GE releases seem to be more successful. When they have had a number of releases that satisfied an area that was popular over time and looks to have a stronger demand. Obviously, some engines were released in the GE area and these have seen the numbers dip. While some engines have moved up in popularity as others are announced, not all of those that follow then match the popularity that the previous ones had. Some of this is to be expected, the first ones are bound to be highly desired and as you go down the list, items become either more specialised or niche. While some of the first releases for GE then encourage other votes for follow up classes, the recent releases of things like the J70 tram, and N7 will see some of the popular remaining items chosen for production since the last wish list poll. Follow up engines on previous polls, do not match the way in which some engines have stepped up before, so I can see demand for the GE area falling in the next poll, if trends are anything to go by.

 

This in turn leaves the NER as the remaining pre-grouping area that shows high demand and also, the only pre-grouping area throughout the poll never to fall in demand across the period. With Q6 announced choices grow in number, and on release a similar jump is seen. Demand is now strong for various ex-NER engines that have matched and exceeded the growth in demand shown in polls for other grouping areas. All of these engines poll higher than some engines that have been chosen for production – but that is something that will come later.

 

Ex-NER engines have pushed their position now to the forefront and emerged as the strongest pre-grouping area that exists to be made. This is important as engines largely remained local and has been an issue for some to be selected. However, the boost to their popularity is that some did traverse other routes and regions.

 

The other area that shows continued popularity is the LNE group standard designs. But some of these are highly inconsistent. Engines like Hush Hush actually fall significantly across the period following the P2 release, while others like K4 show a similar growth pattern to other pre-grouping engines like the J36 that was closer to its operating area. The LNER Steam sentinel railcar proves very popular but its position varies considerably – I think the Western steam autocoach unit will have brought back its idea into the spotlight. So overall popular Eastern group standard designs are done and many remain popular over all, but the trends to identify them are a lot less clear for some.

 

What is clear is that the popularity of these engines exists and it was clear even before the period of data used to get these results, as the other engines needed for the region could be purchased and were readily available. The engines that are people are selecting are also interesting for the NE region, but such recent results for the area show that the interest and demand is strong, has been for ages given its starting position and as other popular areas are met, it leaves it as one of the few remaining areas with a demand and following that mirrors other selective periods that have seen models produced to date. That surely means it’s an area that should see further follow up orders, now that K1, Q6 and J72 have, or will arrive soon.

Just for some context Black Hat, could we get a list of each of the Locomotives types that are present in the graph, for an idea of what seems to be polling well.

"Somewhere in East Anglia, on a branchline, the day goes on".

The cakebox challenge peaked my interest a while ago, but I haven't gotten around to starting one. This is my entry. Inspired by quaint goods yards that populated many stations in East Anglia. The plan is simple, model a goods yard with a small signal box, a goods loading platform and possibly an abandoned third road, for what probably would of been the long gone passing loop. The board will be 3mm piece of MDF, cut to 8"x8", as per the specifications. Height will not be an issue. This should be a fairly simple cakebox. The pictures should give an idea of what I'm talking about.

Railmodeller Pro is the best solution for Mac, that includes running SCARM, xtrackcad and AnyRail(while using Wine). It might not have the same abilities, but it gets the job done, and It is quite good to be able to pull your computer out and just fiddling with ideas. You have no idea what you could come up with.

Very exciting! Hopefully Hornby announce some 009 stuff tomorrow, interesting to speculate whether the slate wagons will use the same tooling as the thomas ones which themselves are a decent representation of Talyllyn slate trucks

Bachmann can't use the exact same tooling as their Thomas slate wagons due to copyright reasoning. It would be an all new tooling. It's still a nice range, and I'm thoroughly looking forward to it. 

I have a feeling it could be an industrial, just by the fact that it has been 2 years since Hornby announced theirs...................Or a LNER J27, I really don't mind

DJ, of the allocated price for a J94, 90 pound, what constitutes the vast majority of the engine. Is it the chassis, the production costs per model or the actual plastic. 

Thanks

Great modelling mate. just a quick point. The B17s, K1s and O1s, at least in my experience have problems with the Peco medium radius points, due to the pipes from the cylinders forward. It's a shame I know but I personally haven't found a fix for it yet.

CotN

The engines look great. For the colour maybe a deep green or a deep blue would work on them. Other than that they do look good. 

Lachlan

Hello

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Just a tip for posting photos taken with tablets or phones.  If you take the photo with the device upside down, even though the viewing image will rotate to be the right way round, the actual photo is still upside down.

 

We can't have photos of Alco's upside down, that is just wrong.

 

Cheers

Steve

NZ

Unless they are Australian...

Dave,

Just a quick question. When do you think the next update about the Hudswell Clarke Be released? Just curious as it will be a very nice model.

Just A Quick Question, Would a Centurion Mk3 fit in the loading Gauge on a Warwell? If not could anyone supply a partial or full list of what could be carried on these during the late 50s to early 60s?

These names really are giving me a laugh. Some crews for about 1950 would be brilliant. Can you back date that far?

Just 2. Both have 2 members in the class. Ones the LNER P1. the other the LNER Z5

Right. My wishlist from Oxford. These include various railways. Starting with the

NER

G5

J26/J27(or both)

N10

GER

E4

Y4

SECR

P class

LB&SCR

A1/A1x Terrier

Rolling Stock

GNR Brick Wagons

NER Push-Pull Stock(To go with the G5)

LNER Armour Plate Wagons

I may sound dumb here but what class is it? It looks like a good first attempt at a scratch built locomotive.

Lachlan

Enfield, NSW. British NE Region OO

Lachlan