Zen

Having bought several E2 body shells I am looking to buy the right Westinghouse pump however I cannot make my mind up which unit it is, so I postponed the purchase until I could seek sage advice from people that probably know better than I.

Which is the correct unit for the job please and what make that unit stand apart from the rest please?

Me I think it's Walp3 but have been told it is Walp1 which I think is too small. 

    Might be of interest, not a Crosti, but the other variation of the 9F -  Tyne Dock - Consett loco's  .... 

Have one of these myself at some point I will get the iron ore wagon kits to accompany mine. 

I am set in my ways, I am actually in the midst of obtaining parts to build a copy of Rev W Awdry's original Thomas the little blue faceless E2.

While on the subject has anyone got any pictures of the original Thomas please???

"I built two at the time, a very similar one 92021 on commission. Chap then sold it to Hattons quite soon after I sent it to him, they had it in their second hand section for a long time".

Guess it's all a matter of taste some have it and some just don't! Lol

Do so like the extended deflector!

I did complete a Crownline full Crosti a few years ago on an original Evening Star before selling it and building a better Golden Arrow version on a Railroad chassis (with sound). I have also done a Golden Arrow rebuilt Crosti body on a Bachmann chassis

 

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Crownline version

 

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Golden Arrow Full Crosti

 

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Golden Arrow Rebuilt Crosti - For sale if anyone is interested

Wow thank you sooo much peoples I never knew what exactly happened to Crownline beyond its sale the first time around, Am desperate to get my hands on the rebuilt Crosti kit and an E2 extended tank kit. 

Brunswick Green as 60700. Withdrawn June 1959 and scrapped at Doncaster.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_W1

 

https://www.lner.info/locos/W/w1.php

 

 

 

Jason

Many thanks

W1 pre and post war versions using Hornby's A4 and resin cabs.

 

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Very cool loco! I want mine in BR livery awaiting the cutting axe a fitting end for a cheep static A4 I picked up a small while back, See how many people know there streamliners. 

Enquiring minds need to know what livery the W1 was when it met the cutting torch??? Did it ever see Brunswick green???
 

I have acquired two Crownline 9Fs and was wishing to scale the running gear, Romford wheels but was wondering if it would make any difference to fit modern ABS centred Romfords or the more period correct metal centred Romfords or am I making a mountain out of a mole hill???

I also wish to fit Comet motion gear cylinders etc. For the lack of Crownline motion gear.   

You will want to measure the axle centres to see whether they match the Hornby rods. The prototype was symmetric 5'5" spacing between axle centres, Hornby's is 22+21+21+22 mm. So the prototype's overall 21'8" coupled wb is reasonably well represented by the 86mm overall wb of the Hornby model, but the axle spacings are not uniform. (Bachmann manage uniform spacing, but of 22mm, for a net wb of 88mm whch is of course slightly overscale.)

Yeh I had been wondering about wheel spacing. I believe there is a company that will custom etch motion gear will go look through the RM and see if I can find the advert. 

Thank you for that info it will save me buying the wrong sized rods.

Well here it is the Airfix Evening Star doner kit, shame to cut it about really. It is far better than the Dapol manufactured one in which one tender side is twisted.

Not bad for £8 the Dapol was £11 

For those of you interested in the progress, I have landed a genuine Airfix Evening Star kit and am also looking around for Hornby connecting rods and valve gear, unless someone as a better suggestion?

What radius curve do you want it to go around? With four flanged wheelsets, it will need a radius something North of 4 feet, would be my (educated) guess. I'm all for trying things, but if a practical running model is your intent this one is a case of 'if you want to go there, don't start from here'. In my opinion of course...

 

 Editied to add: the highlighted red is the significant aspect. I read that as there are no instructions beyond 'purchaser uses the Airfix kit parts and sources all other components required to complete, deciding exactly how this is to be done'. This is entirely normal for a sixties/seventies 'build aid' kit, with such groovy features as not having the frames long enough to carry the bufferbeam, cylinders or drag box, to make it a real test of skill and determination.

Lol Good to know nothing is missing then.

This is slowly coming together by process of elimination. 

Maybe, and happy to be proven wrong, but I am pretty sure that Millholme never made a 9F, certainly not in their kit range. Did they make special order chassis?

 

 

Edit: Could it be Bristol Models? They sold chassis kits for Airfix models (and others) and used heavy brass frames.

Thank you

just managed to find an image of a Bristol Models Chassis and the manufacture is sooo similar. I cannot say it diffidently is but the closest call so far.

Maybe, and happy to be proven wrong, but I am pretty sure that Millholme never made a 9F, certainly not in their kit range. Did they make special order chassis?

 

 

Edit: Could it be Bristol Models? They sold chassis kits for Airfix models (and others) and used heavy brass frames.

I am at a complete loss myself hence this post. I vaguely recall a chassis being available for the Pug being made in a similar way but by whom I have no idea.

Nice to know it is not listed my Millholme,

Someone out there knows what this is.

And that looks more like a Bradwell to me?

Thank you

Indeed I stand corrected it even says lrgbradwell9f-1.jpg 

Well spotted that man!

What radius curve do you want it to go around? With four flanged wheelsets, it will need a radius something North of 4 feet, would be my (educated) guess. I'm all for trying things, but if a practical running model is your intent this one is a case of 'if you want to go there, don't start from here'. In my opinion of course... 

I do understand where you are coming from with the 9f radius issue. Expense is not the issue on this project as I just want to build it sheerly for the hell of it. I have a stable of oo Gauge 9fs as well as O Gauge 9fs the latter being the more scale that are for my layout at home. The oo Gauge are for the club layout as call me a philistine but they are all lovers of GWR and I have always had a thing about large BR freight locos 8f 9f etc 

That looks like it came out of a DJH kit. Giveaway clue is the armour plate-thick brass used for the frames.

 

A proper 9F chassis looks more like this:

 

DJH do make some beautifully engineered models.

Sellers notes

"Not sure what make this is, but its a properly manufactured chassis intended to be used with the Airfix ( now Dapol ) You utilise the front portion of the original Airfix chassis for the cylinder blocks, then use this chassis for the 10 coupled part. What you see is what you get."

The wheels are without doubt Romford and would say it is far more likely to be Millholme than DJH, Bit basic for DJH. The centre flangless wheels will be retained but as per the real 9f the other pairs will be replaced with flanged drivers.

However the chassis is too short front and back and the only solution would be to overlay the Airfix chassis side frames to the brass frame. But this is just guess work.

I will post the sellers notes up if I can still find them, hopefully this might spark some ideas.

Hi I am looking for any information on this chassis that way purchased on eBay. It looks very professionally made but I have no clue who manufactured it or have any instructions for construction. Has anyone built one of these or has any information to aid me in its resurrection to a working locomotive please???

I guess being the owner of both 00 and O gauge crosti's I find my self wondering what on earth they sounded like? I will sadly have to put up with the standard 9f sound decoder and will never know the difference that is missing.