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Southern railway building card kits here, enough to build a complete station complex:

A Model Railway

Surprised that two Locomotion still in Sainsburys, Hatch Warren, Basingstoke this morning (I'm not going back).

I thought it looked too small for 00 gauge, endorsed by some comments seen here after I returned.

It's all black so, ideal for a painting project, though the model does not interest me and I left it there.

Difficult to say which model I bought is my favourite.

Mostly Southern that I purchased and they are all about the same standard (good enough for me).

I enjoyed motorising and super detailing the Bulleid.

The others in my set require more intense modification I think - maybe one day.

Shame its finished. I enjoyed reading comments here too.

The series brought out the 'hunter-gatherer' instinct in my as I searched for the illusive stock in the shops.

Someone asked if the Hatchett 'Your Model Railway Village' is still running.

Answer Yes. (An article I wrote for it appeared in issue 8.

Finally got 1 from my local Sainsburys

 

Have an unused Bachmann Lord nelson Chassis that I bought with a view of using on an unuseable Mainline class 5 (not easily feasable). After a house in the next few weeks I may get the chance to motorise with the proper chassis, tender bogies more of a problem but may use the metal outers as an add on to some old bogies

 

Chaz

I'd be interested to read your How To... on motorising the LN.

Yippee! Got an LN from Sainsburys, Hatch Warren, Basingstoke. I arrived as the shelves were being stacked and got it before it hit the shelf. Their allocation is only two units. One left, which I am lead to believe by the shelf stacker will be sold quickly. Asda Basingstoke usually sell GBL as well.

Manufacture and finish quality is very good. Nice to see window glass fitted and the cab is detailed including separately applied regulator wheel(?). Tie rods are left off from the brake levers so lends itself for a some super detailing. Coal representation is very poor, as usual.

This is my final purchase from the series, unless they extend it. I bought the Mallard (since sold), Bulleid, Schools, T9. N, Black 5 and LN and motorised the Bulleid, which was shown on page 92.

Nada. 

Smith's Wallington and Sutton.

 

In Wallington:

 

Me: "Have you got the latest Great British Locomotives issue in, please?"

Betty: "No. We sent it back yesterday."

Me: "It isn't due out until today."

Betty: "Oooh. I don't know."

Other woman: "Is it a train?"

Me: "Yes."

Betty: "It isn't in yet then. It must be late*"

Me: "Can I reserve it?"

Betty: "Only if you order all of them."

Me: "Thank you..."

 

Similar in Sutton.

 

*Betty wins today's prize for applied critical thinking...

Been to Asda and Sainsburys. Assistants were in the process of stocking magazine shelves. No sign of GBL so enquired and was told they had not seen GBL for the shelves today.

What's going on?

My K's kit built Q1 is looking old and naive and could do with an updated body and tender.

With the end of the GBL series in sight I wish they had released the Q1 (an unusual looking loco but probably too ugly for the masses).

A project to motorise a GBL version would have been enjoyable.

At least there is the Nelson due soon to keep me occupied.

With talk of bent footplates and wonky cabs I had no interest in rushing out to find the N, especially as I have the Bachmann original.

I was in Sainsburys Basingstoke (Hatch Warren) today and saw only one on the shelf.

Had a close look and was pleased to see the cab was fitted square on a straight footplate.

Just a bit of glossy glue overspill where cab joins the footplate that is only visible in directional light.

Clearly this one is from a later batch where greater care in assembly was applied.

Overall the model looked fine and the mould line along the top is very feint.

Shame GBL omitted the front steps.

Yes, I came away with it.

I disagree, well for a start you need to shell out at least over £1300, just for a 3D printer, the resin just a small bottle say about £50 to £75.

Great for just a static model part, but any part under stress will need better resin.

At the moment, if you can provide your CAD drawing software to one of the 3D Printer Owners/Companies, you might get a decent not to expensive solution.

Buy your own?

Beware, just plain 2D printer ink is now dearer then gold, as most Printer manufacturers build in, Use their OWN ink only, in the printer and software.

AS THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY FROM THE INK, often giving away the printer, ITS THE AFTERSALES.that produces the profit, this is not going to change!

So please members do take care.

Paul

Here's mine: http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/3d-printers/8111855/

Well done to all members who have posted on this topic!

Well GBR are certainly not flavour of the month or two or three or four, but its been great to see just what can be improved, with a little paint, filler, total strip down, rebuild, even adding a printed part from one of the latest 3D Printers!

Its quite apparent that quite a lot of money has been saved by members using GBR models, but do take care with the 3D stuff, as your spending is going to cost loads, not just for the Printer, as I've looked up the cost of the resins the Printers use.

And good Cad software and a decent puter, plus software is also going to add to your costs!

Sometimes the old methods are best, and by far the least expensive!

Keep up the good work.

 

Paul

DIY 3D print start up and running costs are soon recovered when you consider all manner of items that can be made, especially replacement parts for appliances etc. that would otherwise require purchase of a new appliance/machine. But the process does require a degree of engineering skill that may be beyond some people, though not the capable modellers here perhaps.

Somewhere back on this thread was a posting about fitting a later Hornby unrebuilt  BoB chassis to the GBL spamcan, which also linked to another web page showing conversion in detail, which I'm afraid I can't find.  I think it showed that the current chassis is just too wide near the cylinders and needed some modification. However, the older chassis  fits ok, as one would expect with the GBL one based on the early Hornby model.

 

This is the GBL loco I got from John (thanks again, John).

 

 

 

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Chassis with x04 motor, GBL body and actual Hornby  one behind (repainted over 30 yrs ago now).

 

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Had to remove the bulkheads GBLmoulded in, easy with sprue cutters and stanley knife plus a bit of fiddling. Chassis then fits in ok, the rear holes for the mounting lugs are there but no cab floor so will need either a floor or a strip along the bottom of the firebox.  Not yet done but thanks to blu tak I have had it running round the layout. :-)

 

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So retro look  vintage Hornby and uses a spare chassis which runs ok although rather crude (no slide bars for instance). But if I find a later style chassis it could also be the basis for a more authentic model (my original intention).

Link is here for anyone fitting the current Hornby chassis http://amodelrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/gbl-bulleid-bob.html.

76046 to 76069 were the SR allocation with BR1B larger tenders, as per GBL.   Southern also had 76005 to 76019 and 25 to 29 (smaller tender) but the Stratford ones also ended up on SR.  Doesn't look like 70 and up were ever on SR.    (BR motive power allocations 59-68, Ian Allen)

According to Wikipedia the class only worked the central section of BR(S). Southern modelling fans might bear this in mind if their SR interest is elsewhere in the region. (Is Wikipedia right?)

Public note of thanks to JohnMartin90125 for the 2 GBL locos which arrived today.  The BoB will become 222 Squadron which I've got the nameplates for, which  I once spotted and which kept a high sided tender to the  end (so that's one less mod to do!). Got a Hornby old type chassis which could be used, just have to cut away some of the inside strengthening from the body.

 

The 28xx may go through a more radical transformation, possibly involving a merging with parts of a Castle, or another 4-6-0 since the boiler looks the same as star and saint  - more investigation to be done.

 

Thanks, John

 

Cheers, Bill

Don't know about the old Hornby chassis but the new one needs a bit more work on the GBL body and chassis to fit. The body seems narrower than the Hornby.

See here: http://amodelrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/gbl-bob-part-4.html

One T9 on the shelf at Asda Basingstoke with a coupling rod half hanging off.

Enquired if any more in stock and advised NO. (at 9.30am!)

So, I bought this last one.

Feeling pleased that I had at least got one I next went on to Sainsburys for the weekly shop and found two on the shelf there in perfect condition!

I had not seen any previous GBL on sale there for months.

I dithered but, refrained from buying those.

The coupling rod was easy to reposition in its holding boss once the loco was removed from the plinth and chassis unscrewed.

There is nothing else wrong with the manufactured assembly or finish of the one I bought.

The coal moulding design is the most unrealistic I have ever seen and should be reworked, perhaps with a layer of coal chips on top.

Other than that it is a very nice static model.

I would be interested to read about how to motorise it if anyone attempts it.

One HST in Andover, Hampshire Sainsbury's supermarket this morning, if anyone wants it.

Assembly looks good but paintwork appalling, especially the front which has variation in depth of yellow and much bleeding between colours.

I'm one of the silent majority(?) who has followed this thread from the beginning and collected some of the GBL models. Only now have I joined the forum so that I can show you my own work motorising and detailing one of the earlier releases since some of the regular contributors here have urged us to do this.

First I have to say how much I appreciate your contributions to this topic, either with your modelling tips, historical information or sources of modelling materials. It has helped me very much in my endeavours.

The model I decided to upgrade has not received much publicity here. In fact, I believe there has only been one other posting showing an upgrade. (Back on Page 64 by darrel).

OK, to stop beating about the bush it is the Southern Battle of Britain. I think it is fair to say the raw GBL model received more criticism than praise here and I'm reminded of The Weathering Man's review "GBL release is really a total non-starter due to distorted dimensions that totally ruin, in particular but not only, the frontal aspect of the locomotive and will be next to impossible to correct".

Well, after studying the obvious faults I found the front end was much easier than expected to remodel and get very close to the correct dimensions, providing we choose to model a locomotive that does not have the lower side valance.

The entire story of 'how I did it' is published on my Blog (the other blogging service). Not sure if I can give a link here but I dare say you will find it.

The GBL BoB loco was re-liveried as BR(S) West Country 34040 Crewkerne, early crest and fitted with a Hornby motorised chassis.

'Why I did it' is interesting because my first motivation was cost (apart from the fact I am an avid BR(S) modeller). I could not resist the favourable price of the GBL offering believing motorising it would be cheaper than a r.t.r. model. Overall, the cost has been a bit below the average price of a second hand r.t.r. Considering the work and time required for conversion, it cannot be a recommended approach for casual modellers. But, what price can you put on the creative process and sheer pleasure of turning a second rate model into something to be proud of?

Here it is.