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If it is black it will be an interesting change from green, although I have to say I loved the sight of 34027 when it was painted in BR maroon for the commencement of the Harry Potter story. As an aside I once saw a print of a painting featuring four express passenger steam locos lined up outside a shed, all painted BR maroon. I think they were possibly a duchess, a King or Castle, a Bulleid pacific and maybe an A3 or A4. Anyone else recall this ?

Back to 35018, perhaps there is black paint left over from 45699 ?

That is a good point Dave, since this is laser-scanned, does that mean the model will reflect the preserved condition with lowered cab/bonnet and double blastpipe chimney?

 

Not a deal-breaker as far as I am concerned but I was wondering how much flexibility there is to accommodate such detail differences in the tooling.

I rather think this depends which King was scanned and when. 

AIUI if 6000 was scanned at STEAM in Swindon there wouldn't be an issue. If 6023 was scanned prior to the start of 2016 then again I feel the loco was "dressed properly" I believe it is only since the repairs were done to the loco after it's running in at the North Norfolk and Great Central Railways that the loco received the cut down fittings.

Here is a link to an image of it working on the Great Central with "authentic" boilerware.http://www.gwsmainline.org/z2013photos/2013_gcr_05.jpg

Bit of a left of base suggestion Dave, given the withdrawal of the OO class Q6, how about continuing the 0-8-0 theme and producing the LMS "Austin seven" instead. It is a huge gap in heavy freight steam and lasted into BR days. A relatively simple loco with no splashers I imagine it's rugged lowliness would be a draw to many.  

Hi Dave

Fantastic piccies as always and grateful to you for sharing them.

Just a couple of mentions here. The Swindon Cross Country unit at Blaenau Ffestiniog was one of the power twins dedicated to the Central Wales line, identifiable by the headlight on the bracket between the windscreens. Must have been having an "awayday" !!!! 

 

 

q Blaenau Ffestiniog Classes 120 and 101 July 82 C5733.jpg

Blaenau Ffestiniog Classes 120 and 101 July 82 C5733

 

r Trawsfynnydd 25237 propelling to Blaenau Ffestiniog July 82 C5750.jpg

Trawsfynnydd 25237 propelling to Blaenau Ffestiniog July 82 C5750

 

 

You have a typo or an incorrect number for the 25 Dave. It is not of the series 25218-25247 as they had the older style bodywork. Possibly 25327 or 25273 although the latter may have been vacuum only brakes until very late on.

 

 

Thanks as always

 

 

Regarding TOPS brake codes there were two variants of vacuum brake - conventional and AFI.

Conventional vac was V, with an air pipe was W, and dual braked was X

AFI vac was F, with an air pipe was G, and dual braked was H

Vac pipe was P and dual piped was R

Although the AFI (accelerator freight inshot) brake was not too common I believe most of the dual braked Sealions were coded YGH, although some lost their vac capability in latter days. A number of Esso tank wagons were coded TTF and the odd ferry tank was coded TTG or TIG. G  was rarest of codes IMHO.  

Sorry, can't help mentioning the LMS coach...........nice.

P

On the loco shed too by the looks. Presume it was a cripple needing repair maybe ?

Hi Dave.

Are you likely to be at the Warley show this year with a stand ?

Thanks

A diversion just for a minute re hovercraft.

I was talking to a colleague who is off to the Isle of Wight for a holiday and mentioned I went over from Southsea to Ryde on a hovercraft back in the early 1980s. He had more recently, but when I googled the type I went in with the "opening cab windscreen" I seems I went on a Hovertravel SRN6. The interior of these was quite similar to a single deck bus but with the rubber skirts around and the Rolls Royce turbine behind the cabin. Presume all the SRN6s were withdrawn when the newer more conventional craft were acquired.  .

Is this for the RSH 0-6-0T?

 

If you want to use a RTR chassis you might as well use the Electrotren chassis for which the body is designed, it has the outside cylinders too. I'm not sure that the 64XX chassis would fit. The body is considerably shortened to fit it the Electrotren chassis, though it's been cleverly done to maintain the right proportions.

 

I've started the process of building a chassis from scratch and have had to reduce the wheelbases from the prototypical 24mm + 24mm, as per Gordon's measurements above, to 21mm + 21mm, again in order to maintain the right 'look'. The 64XX scales down to around 29mm + 29mm, it would look very odd even if it fitted.

Have to apologise Arthur.

I made the elementary mistake of misreading Gordon's dimensions from 7151.

Thought he wrote 7.2" as 7'2" !!!!

so the loco is actually 6'x6' wheelbase so forget pannier tanks !!!!

Exactly 2 years since it was announced, and still only at the drawing office.!!

 

I don't know why they bother announcing so early........I realise it putting a stake in the ground indicating others should steer clear.

 

Brings the Bulleid diesel to mind from Kernow........................has to be near 5 years since that was announced, and last I heard on that one was that no one had yet visited York to look at the drawings.

 

But this seems to be the way of things today.

Not so sure it is even putting a stake in the ground "250BOB"

I presume Dave Jones though the market was his and KMRC for the class 71, and his and Hattons for the King and the 14xx, and his for the class 59 diesel.

I am happy to wait. Gives more time to save the pennies.

Dont know what you call these "split center boxes" perhaps?

 

 

 

 

Steve

We called em "mini splits" Steve

Hi Simon

You are very much closer with this iteration of the design. Once you have painted it up and offered it up to a body I think you might have clinched it.

Are you selling any ? !!!!!!

Thanks

Hi Dave

Is there any news on the Southern 1 Co Co 1 diesel project with Kernow Models please ?

Thanks 

An heretical question.Why do we have to have the front NEM coupling thrust upon us with every r-t-r release ? Is it not time to "think outside the box " and consign it to history ? I find it a b***** nuisance in many cases.

Maybe because more modellers would prefer an NEM coupling mount than wouldn't. I am sure Bachmann wouldn't have spent more to incorporate it if they didn't think it was needed.

Sadly Mr Hargrave I think you are a minority

What a cracker. Notice the speedo drive which appears to be plastic off the bogie frame.

Lovely model and can't wait for one

Been mooching through 0-6-0ts with a similar wheelbase and a near fit appears to be the GWR 64xx at 7'4"x7'4" but the wheels are obviously different.

Who is brave enough to chop up a Bachmann 64xx ???????

With your Western conversion "RailroadBill" are you intending to use the original silver window framing ?

It is only fair to bear in mind that the P2 'Cock o' the North', as produced by Hornby, was a one-off that only ran in the form modelled for a couple of years. 

 

Anyone who saw it, even in their early teens, is now over ninety.

 

John

 

Edit: Removal of un-noticed repetition!

That kind of sums up one of the many facets of the hobby.

If a model is announced by a reputable manufacturer who subsequently brings the model to the marketplace there is a good chance it will sell enough to "wash it's face". Provided that is enough for the manufacturer / commissioner then all is good in the world. Hornby have clearly proved that a locomotive which no longer exists and hasn't been seen for many years, nay lifetime, is in this category, and suggests that the sky really is the limit. Hejan's commitment of many of the prototype diesel tractions could be mirrored by "The Great Bear" or GT3 or many of the other lesser kn own steam or "steam outline" designs. One of the last LNWR Claughtons survived into BR livery.

This means that the D6xx is definately marketable and not just to people who model BR(WR) in the period 1960-1965. I just wonder how people who model 1970s blue diesels will be able to resist one of the pair that worked coal trains in South Wales. So it is just a question of when rather than if, and it is Dave Jones and Chris Trerise who have the answer to that.

Presumably the SR diesels 10201-10203 will follow ?    

"9D"  

 

Look there's them Transfesa vans again that go soooooo well with Class 71's   

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/2428136703/in/album-72157624412749012/

Now that would be a really useful project for DJM. I know you have declined to consider wagons Dave but the distinctive blue Transfesa vans are crying out to be produced RTR and would be so useful, appearing practically the length and.breadth of BR in their time,  

What doesn't work is, the often mentioned issue, that the Bachmann Collett goods has incorrect undersized wheels. The Bachmann Collett has the smaller size 4ft 7" wheels from the Pannier fitted rather than 5ft 2" it should have. Basically the Bachmann Collett wheels are the same size as the 64xx. If you are sceptical of this, I have just checked my ROD tendered Collett from a recent batch and they are still way too small. They come out about 18mm rather than the 21mm they should be.

 

Mike Wiltshire

Funny you should say that. I bought a 2251 with the ROD tender specifically for repowering a Lima 94xx, then realised the Collett (should have) had 5'2" wheels. 

Perhaps it was karma !!! 

Class 104 in all the various liveries as two and at least three car versions Charlie !!!!

No. guessed not. I suppose it'll be another 4 wheeled device painted lime green and white

Whatever, I am sure you'll do a fantastic job 

Moving on from all the pointless whinging and whining about Bachmann's pricing policy, the BR inspection saloon in maroon seems to have massively outsold it's very similar LMS liveried counterpart. Is anyone going to take a punt on whether the lined maroon or unlined crimson will be the "sellout" catalogue number ?

But is it £11 better than the Dapol version when it still has faults.

Probably a very individual decision. some will buy and some won't - end of.

Late to the party Brian (BR2975) but your efforts at the stsrt of the thread are appreciated by me at least.

I am interested in the RSH 0-6-0s which worked at Hams Hall power station nesr Birmingham but these seem pretty "draughtsman shy" from a published drawing perspective