Jim15B

Found one, only two years late! June 1990, I hope it helps. Apologies for the quality.

7 hours ago, runs as required said:

If its Hilda style Cheesecake you are after,  may I recommend this

 

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2020/mar/27/ukraines-railroad-ladies-in-pictures

 

I like the green tiled roof, balcony and steps lady’s box best.

dh

There are certainly some sturdy structures there.

18 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Are you 100% certain that it only appeared to be a waxwork?

 

St Enodoc - my two visits to Mdme T’s were a few months ago, and during some sort of power/coal workers strike in about 1976 (there was a power cut during it), and a lot has changed in that time, in fact nothing hasn’t, and it has gone from very bad to even worse. 

I've been in Tussauds a couple of times in the course of my work (not as a paying guest) and I'm amazed that anyone would fork out the small fortune required to get in. Bizarrely my sister-in-law and family love it and visit regularly throughout the year.  I doubt anything changes enough to warrant more than one visit in a lifetime.

14 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

Well, as a railway in existence from the late 1850s, it might have done.  Nice idea.

 

I would guess that, by the early 1880s it had start to apply its W.N.R initials. 

 

What might such an illiteracy mark look like for the WNR?

The silhouette of a dodo maybe? Or a pyramid?

On 29/03/2019 at 10:51, Joseph_Pestell said:

Ignoring the Martians if I may, it has never occurred to me to ponder what was previously on the site of all those mansion flats. I must start to do some research on old-maps.co.uk. London may have been a much more attractive city.

Many of the mansion flats were built on the sites of successive slum clearances in the early 1800s that systematically wiped out much of the early city that was still directly linked to the post Great Fire period. Thousands of people were moved out with the result that even more crowded slums were created on the fringes of the new developments. There was a building craze in the early 1800s akin to the railway mania later in the century, and many investors lost everything as projects floundered and developments stagnated. 

12 hours ago, Hroth said:

I'd heard that Sally would be found around a corner between shots having a quick drag.  Gin on set would be...  problematic...

 

Personally, I would have selected The Titfield Thunderbolt as a film-viewing option!

I'll try them with that next time - I don't think they've seen it before (and I haven't for years). Girls at 8 and 13 are a surprisingly easy crowd to please.

1 hour ago, Edwardian said:

 

I am sure they will sit ans watch attentively

Amazingly in this world of fast paced action and CGI they have. I'm supposed to be studying for professional exams, but I've sat and watched attentively too.

My children wanted to watch a film this evening. They could have had any one they wanted - they chose "The Railway Children", entirely of their own volition.

I collect horse brasses and recently saw an image of a MOY brass, but can't recall where. They presumably undertook local (horse drawn) delivery as well as wagon loads.

I know it's been said a couple of times before - amazing work on the drill hall.

3 hours ago, sem34090 said:

Well I could go in for that... I think I'll get it scenic first and then decide.

For now, however, it's rather incongruously providing a home for my new H2.

H2O?

Why is the loco driver shaking Hitler's hand?

I think that may be Lord Halifax in the top hat bearing down on him with a small stick.

Slow progress, but progress all the same. The carcass for the ironworks building is done and the end walls are covered with plasticard. I realised too late that I was using the wrong brick bond, but if I don't mention it no-one will notice. The front wall is just resting in place at the moment awaiting the next stage.

BBC 6 Music for me, but no television other than Question Time that I quite enjoy getting annoyed at.

Dogs have their own cemeteries; bicycles and perambulators ........

Canals

The frontage is still there too. The railway features in the first book of Andrew Martin's Jim Stringer railway detective series (appropriately titled "The Necropolis Railway"), which I can highly recommend for those looking for some late Victorian/Edwardian atmosphere.

 

Edited for inability to type.

Three thoughts:

1) If you want absolute accuracy, you need to compare drawings and quite possibly consider starting from scratch/specific kit;

2) Will it satisfy you, if you make the changes you suggest?

3) Decide on whether you want option 1 (must be as true to prototype) or option 2 (enough changes to make it different from the starting point and close enough to reasonably suggest the intended prototype) and stuff what anyone else thinks.

 

As you are working in 00, you are obviously prepared to accept some deviation from strict dimensional accuracy, so I’ll throw the question back at you: do you think it will be close enough?

 

If it works for you, to the level of accuracy/reasonableness/fidelity you wish to work to, stop worrying.

 

PS Relocated dome, new cab sides, and new “steel” bufferbeams would make convincing changes.

PPS http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/107281-peckett-locomotives-works-numbersclass/&do=findComment&comment=2170959 - remember that quoted cylinder size relates to the bore, not necessarily the dimensions over the cladding.

Thank you for your thoughts. I think I'll have to find and compare some dimensions a bit more closely and see how much of a compromise it is. As you say, working in OO I'm happy to run with a few compromises and get the overall impression, but I'd still rather spend my money on something that's going to be accurate than a sows ear. I am slightly concerned that I'll find I'm not satisfied so I think I'll prioritise my money on the Andrew Barclays from Hattons (which will also require surgery or compromise but will at least be starting from the correct prototype) and do a bit more digging on the Peckett's measurements.

If you are into kit building the CSPModes.com CSP41, Henry Court, looks like the right one!

Thank you - the CSP one is a W4 as well but does have the correct shaped cab. Their Avonside is definitely on my list (I have the 7mm version) so if I'm doing a kit that one would brobably be first, along with a High Level Hawthorn Leslie. I will bear the Peckett in mind though.

Whilst slowly putting together the workshop building I am also considering some motive power options. I have my eye on a couple of kits and hopefully will have a Hattons 16" Barclay soon, but I just wanted to canvas opinion as to whether the Hornby Peckett W4 would be a feasable conversion to the R type "Rothwell". Being from that town I would rather like to have the loco running. Other than the cylinder size I'm not sure how great the dimensional differences between the classes were. Would I get away with moving the dome and making some minor adjustments to the cab?

Just come across this post. I think I took a couple of pictures in the late '80s/early '90s and if I can find them (and if they are any good) I'll post them.

Combining the two theories in Barnstaple, maybe rabbit fur for gloves.

Best wishes Les. its something I guess we all live in trepidation of as years advance.

 

I've seen a fair few pictures of "stuff" being transhipped at Barnstaple Town, but it looks to have come from the vans of SG passenger trains, onto the passenger platform.

 

What the "stuff" is, I can't guess, but big wicker baskets, like laundry baskets, can be seen in several pictures. Apart from laundry, what might they be used for? Game in bulk is one possibility, but so many baskets ....... was their a massive traffic in rabbits or pheasants?

Baskets were commonly used for textiles, so maybe gloves or lace in Barnstaple. The baskets in the attached image contain corsets from the factory in Desborough (still a going concern but not making many corsets now). The steam lorry is a Midland Railway owned Thorneycroft.

Provision for working if possible.

 

Thank you for all your work on this.

 

Jim

Regarding accessing the online records held by the Manchester Museum of Science and Industry, have you tried looking at a web archive? I've just looked at the MOSI site from 1999. If you know where the links were you may still be able to access the database. I'm not sufficiently proficient with these things to say for certain that it would work but it might be worth a try. I'm sure someone here will be able to give more knowledgable advice. I searched on a site called Wayback Machine - web.archive.org.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20000520040118/http://www.msim.org.uk:80/nonshocked/index.html

Who will be the first to model the Manure Works (not I, I hasten to add)?

I wonder if the manure works were connected with the import of marine guano from Peru.