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The painted pre production samples displayed at Glasgow looked amazing and as the delivery date draws closer, i wont lie I'm a tad excitable! 

Anyone aware of any updates on these? The project page on the RevolutioN website dates delivery as Q2 2022, which is any time about now!

Anyone any idea when these may be due, keen on the SPT orange when they arrive, anything ive managed to find a date on ranges from June 21 forward and they dont appear on the Dapol pre order page.

Almost a year after the last live event, can we expect another or has this medium lost its impact/direability?

For those (like myself) who were eagerly awaiting the second batch to go available on the shop, a quick check this morning and i noticed the LaFarge livery was up at 90+ stock, order placed before the undoubted rush!

Personally id love to see an N gauge RTR model of the MRA's. Or 380/385's in that lovely Scotrail Saltire livery

1 hour ago, carderrail said:

 

I was hoping to get to Glasgow but am at another show... AMRSS website says £295... Hopefully they have some left over for sale.

 

Tony

From memory, very few of the show special editions have ever sold out over the weekend (Although I may be wrong) so I would be shocked if the remnants of the stock don't appear on the show webpage in due course after the weekend.

Personally I'm excited that my 2 Saltire variants are due into the UK in the coming week or so as per the update last night.

For those interested and who may not be able to make it to Glasgow, we will make sure there are plenty of pictures and might even manage another photo montage and some videos onto the club YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvZire37pb26W8qIrMSLJ8w . This has some pre show test run videos and and small montage of our Hallside layout from the last Glasgow show.

On 09/03/2021 at 09:34, St. Simon said:

Hi,

 

In between waiting for other things to happen, I have been going through my stock and re-working what I can ran with what.

 

The reason for this was to place an actual time period on the layout rather than just the ‘2000s’ I have described previously, this was basically to try to put a lid on stock purchases!  

 

So, the time period is now between 2003, the point at which the Class 450’s were introduced (and before the Class 205’s were withdrawn), and 2017, the point at which South West Trains turned into South Western Railway.

 

As part of this, I made a timeline to correlate my rolling stock to see whether I had any ‘impossible scenarios’:

 

 

The coloured blocks are where I actually have the stock, whereas the arrows with grey text are where I have gaps in my stock list which I need to cover.

 

As a result of this correlation, I found that I needed to change a few things around in terms of consists and locos, plus I have got a couple of extra rakes which I haven’t shown before. Plus, I’ve now made some graphics for the formations rather than using photos of the stock, the trains highlighted in red are pieces of stock which I haven’t got (if you have any idea where I can get them, just say!)

 

Passenger Trains

 

 

The major services through Fareham are South West Trains services between Southampton and Portsmouth & Southsea (local stopping services) and between Portsmouth Harbour and London Waterloo via Basingstoke. The local services are in the hands of Class 450’s, whereas the London services are normally Class 444’s, but are fairly regularly Class 450 based.

 

I have also added Waterloo to Weymouth services operated by Class 450s which are diverted via Guildford, Havant and Fareham if needed.

 

When reviewing my sequence, I found that I needed an extra service to use the Bay platform just to make it more operationally interested. So, I have added a local service between Winchester and Collingwood operated by a Class 158 (to be re-livered from an old Bachmann Class 158). This is an actual timetabled service, but is a very early morning service.

 

 

The Southern services are the ones which really can’t be modelled accurately! The vast majority of Southern services are in the hands of Class 377 units (of both legacy and next generation types) as well as the odd Gatwick Class 387. Until a Class 377 appears (I really hope soon!), I’ll use my normal excuse of my 4-CEP and 4-VEP ‘heritage’ units covering for a failed unit! I’m also hoping that Bachmann revive it’s plans to re-tool the Class 171 units which would do me for the moment.

 

Brighton to Southampton services have also been known to be handled by Class 313s which are normally only seen to the East of Portsmouth. At the moment I have a 3D Printed kit for one, but I might get another as I need a pair to run my sequence. Again, until I get a full complement, I’m using my Class 205 Thumpers as cover.

 

 

There are a number of ‘Western’ long distance services through Fareham, such as Brighton to Great Malvern, Bright to Cardiff and Portsmouth to Cardiff. I have decided to model the Portsmouth to Cardiff and return services as these seem to the most common.

 

During the newly defined period, there have been three TOCs operating the services. Initially it was Wessex Trains, which normally used Class 158 units, but also used a pair of Class 31’s top and tailing 4 Mk2 coaches on a Friday only service for a couple of years up to 2003. I would like to model that, but I think a Class 158 would look better.

 

When First Great Western took over from Wessex Trains, they continued to use Class 158’s, but I also have photos of both Class 150/1s and Class 150/2s. I already have a Class 150/1 in FGW purple, but I might get one of KMRCs Class 150/2s in FGW purple to make a 4 car set.

 

Finally, I have a Bachmann new tooling Class 158 in GWR Green to cover the final portion of the era before Class 16x units took over.

 

 

First up is the Cross-Country services, these aren’t generally found at Fareham apart from Diversions, although under the layout ‘story’, the engineering works at Southampton Airport Parkway mean that services have to be diverted so that they reverse in the Bay Platform at Collingwood.

 

I have settled on a single Up (Southampton to Manchester) and a single Down (Newcastle to Southampton) rather than try and model the range of different Cross Country Services.

 

At the moment I only have a Virgin livered Voyager, so I’m keeping an eye out for an Arriva livered one (or wait until a re-tooled one at some point in the future).

 

Regular Freight Services

 

Fareham doesn’t have a lot of regular freight, apart from engineering services, but there are regular diversions for lots of different types of freight.

 

 

The vast majority of the ‘regular’ timetabled freights through Fareham are the Mendip Stone trains from Westbury. Some of these continue through the Aggregate Terminal at Chichester, but a few are bound for the Terminal at Fareham.

 

Fareham is served exclusively by Mendip Rail services (previously EWS / DBC, but now Freightliner), but I have pretended that Collingwood Aggregate Terminal (owned by the fictious ‘Ocean Aggregates) is served by Mendip Rail (using Accurascale PTA tipplers), Freightliner (Dapol HIAs) and GBRF (Dapol MJAs and Accurascale Shorty HYAs).

 

 

As the layout’s ‘story’ relies of there being a track renewal at Southampton Airport Parkway, then there needs to be lots of engineering trains on the layout.

 

To this end, I have three trains which cover the whole era of the layout and the broad spectrum of the types of trains. I have some PNAs which will be loaded with spent spoil, a train loaded with track panels and sleepers and finally a train of fresh ballast.

 

The sequence will also simulate these entering the possession at Eastleigh and leaving at Southampton or visa versa.

 

The interesting thing I realised quite recently is that the majority of the engineering trains through Fareham are to and from Tonbridge, but I can’t fathom out how they get from Fareham to Tonbridge, as there is no direct routes and I can’t find an obvious place to run round (presumably at Redhill). So, if you know, please say!

 

 

Test Trains are quite regular through Fareham, they are powered by a variety of motive power, but most common seem to be Class 73s. I have based this formation of a photo taken at Fareham on Flickr.

 

 

The final ‘regular’ freights through Fareham are Rail Head Treatment Trains, the majority use Windhoff Multi-Purpose Vehicles (MPVs), but RHTT wagons are also seen. My choice of motive power for my RHTT set is not entirely prototypical, but I had the locos ‘spare’!

 

Diverted Freight Services.

 

 

The major diversionary freight through Fareham is Automotive Trains between Southampton Docks and Daventry, which normally run via Basingstoke to Reading, but get diverted via Fareham, Havant, Guildford and Wokingham to Reading.

 

Obviously these are normally quite long, but I’m restricted to just 8 wagons, which should give a good impression of the trains.

 

 

Up until 2017, when Fawley Oil Terminal stopped dispatching goods by train, the Fawley to Holyborne Oil Tankers were regularly diverted via the same route as the Car Trains.

 

This time, I’m limited to 6 wagons due to their length.

 

 

There are occasional services to and from the MoD facility at Marchwood, for the most part these are containers, but also have loaded Warwell and Warflat wagons. I don’t have any photographic evidence that these services were diverted via Fareham, but I can’t find a good reason as to why they wouldn’t be (presumably they never ran on the day’s that the diversions were in place).

 

My Military train consists of 4 of the Hattons Warwells.

 

 

This may be a slight odd sort of train to model, but it did run for a very long time. As advised by this post on this thread, the Quidhampton to Willesden Ball Slurry Trains, made up of a short rake of ‘Sliver Bullet’ Wagons was diverted via Fareham on a number of occasions.

 

‘Special’ Trains

 

 

This is mostly included as I had a couple of Heljan Cargo Wagons and a spare KFA knocking about. I can justify it as Eastleigh is used quite often for Wagon Repairs.

 

 

During 2012, London Midland sent some of their Class 350 ‘Desiro’ units to be tyre-turned at Northam Depot (main maintenance depot for SWTs Desiro Fleet) near Southampton. They were hauled by Class 67’s with KFA (plus other) barrier wagons.

 

Again, I have no photographic evidence that they were diverted via Fareham, but I see no reason as to why they couldn’t be.

 

 

Okay, this one will require some imagination!

 

This rake has come by purely because I took one look at the EPs of the Accurascale MK5s and decided I had to have a rake! I discovered that these entered the UK via Dollands Moor, so I think it is entirely plausible (if some what improbable) that a rake was sent from Dollands Moor to Eastleigh to be tested alongside the Class 73/9 conversions which seem to spend a lot of time there.

 

 

My final ‘special’ train is my Railtrack Bubble Car. I’m using it as a Asset Survey Unit, as it has the Omnicom Engineering Logo on the side, and is carrying out surveys for a re-signalling scheme.

 

Simon

 

Love the consist diagrams, what did you use to produce them?

54 minutes ago, Legend said:

Understand where guys are coming from .

 

Only thing I would say is you can run 2*3 car sets Orange/black and Crimson/cream  but not Orange/Black and Spotrail. 
 

I’m an OO modeller but I’m wondering if this could start a small n layout , intensive Glasgow commuter layout with a few freight trains . Could be interesting to operate . 

Have a look at Hallside in the layout topics. Its 00, however with the stock your talking about something like that would be brilliant in N.

Does the hive mind have any information on the GF JPA cement wagons (la farge livery)and an anticipated delivery date? I see on the webpage it states awaiting, however its said that close on a year, just wondering if i've got that long to wait again until i see the pre-orders i've made.

Given the MK5 coaches are coming in the TPE livery, how big a jump would it be to see the other two TPE liveried Nova multiple units?

41 minutes ago, classy52 said:

I just wanted to reiterate how good Collett's are in regards to buying from them and their customer service, and don't forget they inspect & test your models before dispatch as well as having payment plans which are a bonus.

My own personal dealings with Leigh directly on the phone & via email have been nothing but a pleasure thus whatever personal issue has occurred over the last month or so with Leigh would simply be a blip on the radar and is not who they are in regards to your own negative personal experiences which I'm sure would be a one-off.

All I'm saying is give them the benefit of the doubt during these times and try them again if you were put off previously, you definitely won't be disappointed.

I'd wholeheartedly agree with this from @classy52 I've been buying from Leigh for about 3 years or so.

Everything is well packaged, tested and the payment plan scheme is a god send when budgeting.

The level of service i've received has been brilliant and i genuinely couldnt big up Leigh and his customer services enough.

Personally id love to see (In N gauge);

MRA hoppers

The component parts of the HOAB train

380/385 EMU's (Unlikely as Scottish only)

The Accurascale 37's in N

TPE Nova 1 and 2 to go along side the TPE MKv's

2 hours ago, grahame said:

Would it not be possible to mix paint to match the fairing at the other end (presuming it's the same)? And maybe a bit of weathering and track dirt will hide any discrepancy.

 

 

Ultimately if i have to try and make a match i will and do as you suggest and add weathering to both ends to even things out and blend in, just trying to see if there is a match to start off with.

Regards,

Iain

Hi All,

I've managed to misplace a fairing for my GF 220 in Cross country livery.

Farish no longer supply the spares but i've found an eBay seller who has produced 3d print replacements, however i need to know the colour match for the purplish colouring of the fairing, does anyone have any info they can share?

Regards,

Iain

On 11/04/2020 at 22:43, jpendle said:

Hi,

 

Do you have a multimeter to check for continuity between wheels and motor.

On the 66 Left Hand side wheels connect to pickus and to the LHS Chassis Block

LHS Chassis block connects to PCB via a screw at one end of the PCB.

Right side is the same.

If the lights are on then the PCB connected to the wheels/track.

The PCB uses the two downwards pointing metal fingers to connect to the motor contacts, these should be bent slightly inwards and are meant to touch the OUTSIDE of the motor contacts.

As you are testing with DC you can just hook up your power source to the tops of the motor contacts on the PCB and see if the motor moves, its best to remove the bogies when doing this as you don't want the loco running away if its on a bench rather than on the track.

 

Regards,

 

John P

Thanks John,

I'll need to get into the office later this week to collect some things so can pick up the multimeter then to test it.

Many thanks,

Iain

Hi Folks,

Firstly, thanks for the suggestions.

I have made sure the blanking chip is in the right way round, still i get lights but zero movement.

I have taken the bogies apart and all the wheels move freely without any catching or siezing.

Any other suggestions or am i sending it to a pro once this lockdown over and done, whenever that may be.

Regards,

Iain

15 hours ago, Kris said:

Check the gears very carefully. If you can take the bogie's off see if you can turn the wheels by hand, if you can not you are very likely to have a split gear that it jamming up the drive. 

Thanks Kris,

I'm planning on stripping the boggies down and cleaning them, the contacts and the gearing over the ext few nights so i should be able to check that at the time.

Thanks for your response.

16 hours ago, jpendle said:

Hi,

 

Which specific model is it, is it DCC or DC?

Did you buy it new or secondhand?

Does the PCB inside have solder tabs for DCC or a 6 pin socket?

 

Regards,

 

John P

Hi John,

Its the DCC reasy version with the 6 pin slot.

It was a gift from a friend in exchange for some work i did for him on his webpage.

I've made sure there is a blank chip in place.

Regards,

Iain

Hi All,

I'm a relative novice to the hobby, however i'm keen to teach myself the key skills required to continue without reliance on the many specialists out their.

To that end, i have a Graham Farish class 66 that i recently acquired that will not budge at all. The lights come on but there is no-one at home.

I've found how to strip the loco down and clean the contacts, worms etc, just wondering if there is anything else i should be looking at.

Anyone had a similar experience?

Thanks,

Iain 

2 hours ago, Legend said:

Layout looked very good at Model Rail Scotland . Loved the emus 303, 318 and 320s .  Shame there wasn’t a Pendolino for the main line , that would also have been impressive .  The overhead wires looked very intricate and excellent

Thanks Legend, unfortunately for us both Pendolinos decided they didn't want to play, especially with the very small and gentle inclines and despite having weight added over the drive bogies, hopefully that'll be resolved for the next outing though.

Hi all,

As Lambie the elder posted yesterday, attached are some more pic from today's running.

We had a very busy and successful day with lots of very kind comments and lots of questions about all things Hallside. As a club we are slowly working on our digital presence and will update the details of the webpage, youtube channel and flickr accounts as and when tehy are updated with actual content, in the interim, please feel free to ask questions here and we will answer in as much detail as we can as quickly as we can.

Once again many thanks for all the kind and supportive comments.

More will follow over the coming days

On 09/02/2020 at 13:51, Richy59 said:

 

How did you do your red ballast? I'm in the process of starting my layout based in Scotland, and have been struggling to find a suitable red ballast to match the lines local to me.

 Hi Richy59,

I'm pretty sure its a pre-made n gauge product, i cant remember the brand but i'll find out the details and post a URL to the item for you