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Came across this quite recently and interesting to note that a model of 142084 is being produced, albeit in its later condition in life. Never had the chance to hear a 142 with the TL11 and SCG gearbox.

Looking very much foward to one of these. Will start saving now and soon pre order a GM Orange 142.

It is indeed, the design process and making of this very model just featured on the new Hornby show on the Yesterday channel, potentially another thing to make people ask for a hell of a lot of money.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313712090473?hash=item490ab29d69:g:TN4AAOSw8N9haVqk Sure these are a tired cliché by now but at least the description states these ex Gresley.

Very true, the 175's spring to mind. And yes in terms of passenger comfort the newer Pacer units will have been an improvement over the 1st gen units. I will defend to death the 142 and other Pacer Railbuses, with the financial pressures on BR at the time the Pacer was the cheap solution. And very interesting to know you worked with some of the people in the leaflet.

For the Pacer fans out there, I've scanned a leaflet promoting the new trains of the future from their introduction into the Manchester area. I'm sure it will raise a laugh from some about them being smooth, reliable with better suspension and making travelling a really relaxing experience. Till you hit Miles Platting or Oldham Mumps of course and hear copious amounts of flange squeal! Still you have to love the optimism and enthusiasm. Also features a interior shot with the original seat moquettes. Alas as we know they had their fair share of technical issues which is shown in the pic of a special notice poster, dated 6/87 mentioning them and apologising for the older stock or shorter formations used.

Thanks for the response Charlie, either way I'm still happy that a modern spec model is being produced of these 2nd generation stalwarts. And gives me more time to save up for a few.

I've been following with great interest any news about these models ever since first hearing the intention to produce a high spec model. Having seen the 144 I can't wait to buy a few of these models, especially North West variations. I have always loved these units ever since I was young, my best Christmas present being a Hornby Spirit of the North train set featuring a 142 when I was 8.

Prety much spot on, again from the APT-P leaflet.

You're most welcome. The sad thing on the back of that leaflet is under the section 'The Future' Quote 'British Rail hopes to build a fleet of APT's for all the electrified services from Euston to Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester, N.W. England and the W.Miands. If the government gives authority these services could be running by the mid 1980's.' Such a shame this never came to fruition. At least we can savour what remains of APT and look forward to what sounds to be a cracking model. I'm just having visions of the blue cab, tartan seats and the large InterCity APT legend adorning the power car.

Hopefully this answers your question.

I believe it was 49003 from set 370003 that was the only named APT vehicle, 'City Of Derby' which is being produced as the 7 and 10 car sets, both with black window surrounds.

Chalk up another first installment paid.