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That is almost an argument for N, you are getting yourself into dangerous cake decorating territory.

I got it A "Trains on film" range. Totally unique and never thought of before.

I am too and I dont know why Simon is not using his real name.

Any chance of doing Lion, everyone else is. It might even go with the Chaldrons.

They are HST Mk3s and are retooled so I really doubt that will ex Oxford as that would not be a retool nor a HST Mk3.

Finally some retooled Mk3s. I will probably have to wait until 2023 for blue/grey, exec and swallow liveries but it is good news. I may even have a layout by then and my power cars will have something to haul

Unfortunately we still have pay VAT Just to add, you are usually charged a handling fee to process the VAT payment, if there is one, by the delivery company. Thats why it is good when you order from Accurascale, the package just arrives. Same with Hattons if they are VAT registered in your country of residence. Obviously none of this applies if you live in the US or further afield.

There are no duties on model trains as they are classified as Toys as far as I know.

Hattons are registered for VAT in several EU countries. This means items just arrive at your door There is no need for additional payments if you live in one of those coubtries. Accurascale are also very good at dealing with this and remove difficulties for customers.

It would not be anywhere near the top of my list. There is not much wrong with the Hornby one. The lighting control features under DCC could be better (as with all Hornby diesels) but I cannot see how any manufacturer would do a new one.

While a reworking of the earlier versions of the HST Mk3s would be welcome. I think Hornby are going to be more radical this year: 1 large steam engine 1 medium sized steam engine 1 small steam engine possibly industrial. To paraphrase Blackadder goes Fourth, doing exactly the same thing they have done the last 35 times before is the last thing anyone will suspect. Once these locos are announced, I will once again restrain from saying there is nothing in it for me. They really should update/improve their 50 before someone else does, and someone else will. Same goes for the 31.

Its a mixed bag. Only the Hornby coaches are suitable for the HST. The Oxford rail ones are not as they are loco hauled versions. The Oxford rail ones are better in some ways, worse in others. Both versions could be better. I think the retooled ones Hornby have done to reflect the HST MK3s later in their lives are the probably the best but they are not suitable for blue/grey or executive liveries. I am still waiting for a definitive version.

It probably is. Let me be the first in this round to suggest a HST. It must be least 4 pages ago since it was last mentioned.

Someone is going to have to go through all the suggestions and siphon out the sensible ones.

If the 59 is not in production already then we are unlikely to see it before June next year. There is production time and transport time and also Chinese New Year to factor in. Unfortunately I do not see this arriving soon.

I am just going to wait to see what it is

There were none for me in the first batch either and I looked at renumbering options. In the end I ordered 37714 from the Heavy Traction Group but I will have to wait longer for that. I am expecting to take a bit hit on the second batch

I sure when Gareth is finished the HST and the class 50, he will move on with the class 31. Although he may squeeze in a P2 for a bit of variety in the meantime.

Are we there yet?

Surely they would have to re gauge the European rail network

It is the coaches that let the current model down the most in my opinion. I know they have re-tooled the later versions but there was no mention of new coaches. They were comparing the old CAD of the power car to photographs and pointing out errors in position and size of windows, hinges etc. so it does look like there is going to be a fully retooled power car. It is not just internal changes for speakers and a change to the position of the coupling hook. We will be able to run a newly tooled model with ancient coaches including a mismatched TGS and vent-less buffet car. Hopefully coaches are coming next.

They also featured a restaurant car with the missing roof vents - fast becoming a Hornby signature model. I hope they are re doing the original coaches as well. I suspect we will see a model of the HST prototype from another manufacturer and perhaps that manufacture might decide to do the production versions as well?

There is no need to shout. There is no hidden text so don't bother looking

I hope they are professional spellers too

I think enough time has gone by to make another suggestion. A bit out of left field and I doubt if it has been suggested before, at least not in the last twenty minutes, but what about a HST?