Tony,
I have not made myself clear, I met Roy at a show many years (50) ago in Paddington at the hotel near the staion and after me voicing my opinion that an L1 was not likely to work a Grantham to Peterborough stopper, got told to go away in two words made up from 7 letters as did Sir I understand ! This was with High Dyke. I did my apprenticeship with Ken and Roy's notoriety spread around the CEGB power stations so I heard stories about him when working at various power stations. Ken would often talk about Roy and when asked to do the control panels he asked Roy if I could be involved, hence I got to know Roy properly and became a friend. Ken lacked confidence for some reason and yet he was the finest Instrument Engineer I ever met and me helping him made me chuckle. I was not bad at my trade by any means,but not in the same league as Ken.There is no bias in the comments about my cousin, I speak as I find.