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Thanks for the replies guys. It looks like resin is the preferred choice with the proviso that running costs/ supplies/the process is inferior on the resin but of a higher standard than filament. Does anyone have experience of larger items on a resin printer? Components would seem to be relatively straightforward, but what about long, flat surfaces, like coach sides or under frames?Is it possible (7mm scale remember) to print these in perhaps two pieces and join them? What adhesive might work best?

I have a small (very) budget for a 3d printer. My needs are to print chimneys, domes, buffer bases, axle boxes etc in 7mm scale. Also, depending on size (most seem to be in the 200-220 

mm range; 400mm are available but cost more) possibly printing out coach sides, floor/under frames , etc and small wagons. Budget filament printers print larger than budget resin printers. Will a filament printer ‘do the job’ or will I be happier with the quality of a resin printer? I must say, the ‘layer lines’ on flat surfaces do annoy me, but they’re not so obvious on more complex shapes. Will they drive me nuts on the flat sides of a coach, or am I better resin printing (even in 2-parts and joining them) and having better quality/smoothness?

On 26/05/2021 at 11:40, St Enodoc said:

No - they're all WREXHAM with General and Central shown separately and with General in two parts, the ex-GWR and ex-GCR (Exchange) platforms, hence the apparent duplication.

I can confirm, Wrexham General (ex-GWR line to Shrewsbury), attached to which was Wrexham Exchange, on the ex-GC line into Wrexham Central which was an end on junction with the ex-GWR line to Ellesmere.

Seeing the maps of Shotton (High Level on the GC route, Low Level on the North Wales Coast line) reminds me of an incident whilst waiting for the train to Wrexham at Shotton High Level (I went to Kelsterton College, by train, in the late '70's). A friend had bought some salted peanuts and offered me a handful. Being a cocky teenager, I threw one up in the air, mouth open, and caught it! Then, upping the ante, I threw up two peanuts. Mouth open, one in. Step back to catch the other, straight off the edge of the platform! Luckily, train was late and no other passengers were waiting on the platform, but my friends never let me forget it.

OO chassis required for J79 project.

Does anyone have a Dapol, or early Hornby version of the Dapol model, Terrier, at not silly money prices?

Livery and body condition not important as it's the chassis I'm really after. A few on eBay, but only at inflated prices. 

This is what I had in mind, but of course, this is a preserved loco. 
Ce la vie. 

Crikey, Clive, you've done my research for me! I hadn't had time to look through the database for a suitable candidate. Seem's that there might not be one in black, and not many 350hp shunters at all in the area in the late fifties era I'm interested in. Seems I might have to resort to Plan B (or C or D or....). 

Plan A (if I'd had the foresight to make plans!) was to have a Class 08 - or better still, a Class 10, which might have co-existed with an ex-GER J79 Buckjumper, one at the start of it's life, one at the end.

Plan A(2) would have added an F5 2-4-2T and a J15 0-6-0, followed by another early diesel representative.

Why a Class 10? Well, for no other reason that I bought a Dapol O-gauge Class 08 cheaply as it needed some repairs. I smugly thought that when someone said "I like your Class 08" I could, all knowingly, say "It's a Class10!"  Such is the shallow person I am. It seems that 'shot myself in the foot' would be an appropriate epithet at this point!

I’m looking for an ex-GER allocated engine. Circa 1955-1958. Vacuum brake only. If it’s in black with wasp stripes, that would be perfect. If such a thing doesn’t exist, green it will have to be. 

Thanks Ian. Perfect. 
New England or March. 

Does anyone know if any of the Blackstone-engined Class 10 were ever allocated to ex-GER sheds, or maybe Eastern/Norh Eastern regions?

Bryn Howell house is now Bryn Howell hotel. At one time, I lived within a mile or two of this place and never knew of its existence! Beautiful walks along The Panorama, plenty of evidence of spoil heaps and the like. I do vaguely recall some sort of incline heading down from the roadway. 

Cheers guys. Copies arrived today. Many thanks. 

Thanks Keefer. 

Thanks guys. I’ll have to check pictures. I’m looking for a Western Region, vacuum only, green, wasp stripes, NO ladder. 

Cheers mate. PM sent.

Does anyone have access to a copy of Model Railway Journal no.8 (with a class 08/EE 350hp 0-6-0 shunter on the cover). I'm looking for a copy (photocopy) of the article on modelling the class 08.

Are there any other "How to model the class 08" articles around?

Models of 08 in green have white painted ladders over the nose, whilst blue ones have no ladders. 

Is this a generalisation or fact? I'm wondering if any green diesels ran without ladders. 

17 minutes ago, grahame said:

 

So it seems.

 

If you wanted to initiate discussion about liveries and to hear people opinions about them it might have been better to ask what people thought rather than launch in to a negative rant about modern liveries and potentially put their backs up. It probably wasn't the best way to introduce yourself to the thread.

 

If you prefer older more restrained liveries put forward the reasons why and some points in favour of them. Being critical about modern liveries gives the impression you'd prefer an argument rather than any meaningful discourse.

 

Now that you've apologized perhaps we can start again.

Thank you.

5 minutes ago, 4630 said:

 

Corrected your post for you.  No thanks required.

Thanks? That's rather presumptuous of you. I had already apologised to ANY one who was offended. Not all were. 

I wanted to hear peoples opinions on livery. Seems I've made a mess of that and have said Sorry for that.

1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said:

I didn't find your post offensive, but it did seem to be written without any knowledge of the reason for the door colours, hence my original reply by way of explanation.

 

 

Thanks, thats how I took it.

I was just trying to initiate a discussion on the merits of livery, not offending people.

28 minutes ago, iands said:

I think it would be fairer to say that quite a number of visually impaired people struggled, rather than managed, with doors being the same colour as the body. And indeed, that is progress!

I'm not disagreeing, but was trying to compare older paint schemes with modern ones. I wasn't trying to make a point against visually impaired people at all, although it looks like I was a bit unsuccessful at that. My apologies for any offence caused. 

1 hour ago, grahame said:

 

Yep, it certainly sounds like you might be a fuddy duddy. But I doubt it is generational thing - I'm old enough to remember steam trains in service when the liveries were generally unattractive and dull, dreary and often dirty IMO.

 

Of course the majority of images are from the SE. That is where the majority of third rail EMUs run and that is what the thread is about.

 

Identification strips may have been used around the country but were probably not universal and probably not understood by a great many passengers. Do you know what a roof level wide red stripe meant? A lot of passengers didn't.

 

And 'lairy' doesn't back up how you feel - it means ostentatiously attractive and flashy. It's quite possible that is how some TOCs would like to present themselves. It doesn't mean designed by 'five year olds with crayons'.

Ouch!

9 minutes ago, Pete 75C said:

 

 

You're spot on, it IS progress. If it makes travelling easier for just a handful of visually impaired folk, it's a very good thing. The fact that it offends your aesthetic pleasure is of no consequence to anyone at all, sorry!

I accept that it is progress to help visually handicapped people (or should that be visually impaired?), but wether my aesthetic pleasure is thereby impaired is of consequence. That's what the post was about - aesthetics. Yes, of course disability awareness is important; but I was approaching it from a purely 'visual' viewpoint. Sorry if people find that offensive. It was meant to prompt a discussion on the merits of 'old' versus 'new' liveries.

33 minutes ago, eastwestdivide said:

OK, I'll bite. A requirement to help the partially-sighted. Also useful to the fully-sighted to distinguish staff doors from passenger doors as on the Thameslink train two posts above.

Ok, so people managed for years with doors being the same colour as the body, but I guess that's "progress"! 

And lairy 'janet and john' liveries can be found on trains all over the country - not just limited to those in the SE.

Sorry, I wasn't too clear - I wasn't trying to imply that it's only in the SE, it's just that most of the images in this post were from that area. The fact you used the word "lairy" sort of backs up how I feel!

Plus there have been class distinction identifiers recently used since BR. For example SWTs used a line of blue dots (rather than a yellow stripe) to indicate first class.

I wasn't aware of that, but perhaps I'm bemoaning the 'universal' indication of the yellow or red stripe.

So that's two people at least who disagree! Is it a 'generational' thing? Or am I just an old fuddy-duddy? 

(P.S. The GWR green livery with gold accent strip - nee lining - is quite good. Rather more restrained than many others!)

On 18/09/2019 at 18:56, Northmoor said:

Most liveries grow on me after a while.  This one isn't.

I don't particularly follow the railway scene in the South and East of the country, but don't you find all these "Janet and John go painting" colour schemes horrible? No class, like the old Big Four, no obvious class designation, like the yellow/red stripes on BR blue vehicles. And the ultimate insult? Painting doors a different colour so you can see them! All designed by five year-olds with crayons!

2 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

The feel of the place is indeed what has been captured. Like you many years of commuting through there, plus 40 years ago occasionally finding myself as SM at Cannon St, Charing Cross and Holborn Viaduct, have been brought back by Adrian's atmospheric representation. 

I have an idea (on the back burner whilst I dabble in 7mm scale) of a layout based on Borough Market Junction. It would need just this sort of construction and atmosphere.

Well done Westerhamstation on creating a believable slice of London.