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I'm confused about the East Midlands HST. It says 'East Midlands Railway' in the title but the picture is of an 'East Midlands Trains' liveried one. 'East Midlands Railway' and 'East Midlands Trains' are/were two separate TOC's so either the title or photo is incorrect.

Same here. I look forward to seeing how easy they are to fit. I, perhaps somewhat optimistically, told them I could do it myself.

Very sad but not particularly unexpected especially after the incident there in January. I used to go there often during my six years at university, hoping over the Thames from the LSE after lectures. Not the biggest selection but they had the basics.

Same here. I wrote to Hornby a few weeks ago and had a reply stating they were looking into the issue but that no resolution had been decided upon with no mention of replacement bodies.

I have an issue with the two Bachmann Europheonix Class 37s I got with factory fitted sound (Loksound selects I think). When I set them up as a consist to run together I loose the ability to play the sound functions like the horns on the consist address. I have to go into each locos individual address and play the spot sounds from there. Is that normal? Is there anything I can do to make the spot sounds play on the consist address? Would be very useful for drivelock and a lot less fiddling. I’m using a Gaugemaster prodigy express.

For the avoidance of doubt here is a dead side-on picture I took last week. I’ll let everyone make their own minds up.

That is great news! I will do the same. I assumed after Derails said that after 3 weeks they hadn't heard anything back that Hornby were trying to sweep the issue under the carpet but this gives us hope.

Thankyou! Yes indeed. My layout is only long enough for a 2x2 formation. The other 6 coaches are stuck in their boxes.

Not as short lived as the LNER HSTs that Hornby brought out last year. The real ones wore those schemes for a year, if that, before moving to EMR. Really odd that Hornby keeps reissuing new sets of the Virgin/LNER and GWR HST sets year on year but no East Midlands set since 2011. Unless you’re really concerned about keeping your layout bang up to date I would go for the R2948 power car set (the real ones go out of service at the end of this month so they won’t be current for much longer). The model is very nice indeed but good luck not spending over £300/350 second hand and £400 new as they are super rare. I got mine last year with a full set of 8 coaches for £795 which now looks like a bargain.

Here is a photo nicked from the Hattons website at around the angle you specify I think. You are right, it doesn’t look quite as bad. You are probably right that most people look down on their layouts. Still, I designed my layout so when I am sitting down in front of it everything is at almost eye level.

Here’s a picture I took last year. Looks pretty straight to me.

Oh that is great news. Many thanks for sharing this.

I wonder if anyone knows whether Ian Allan in Waterloo has reopened since the pandemic? The Ian Allan website seems to be down and I found this worrying story online: https://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/18184395.ian-allan-book-model-shop-fined-thousands-selling-knife-teen/ I fancy that many model shops would not be able to survive that and the pandemic.

Thankyou. Thats what I thought. So Hornby providing replacement body shells for those (as they did for bow fell) is straightforward for the customer to fit, with it just being a case of popping the old one off and the new one on. I think they’ll be more reluctant to provide customers with replacement body shells for the HST power cars due to the amount of soldering/desoldering which would be required for a body swap. More likely, if anything, is that they will offer customers the chance to send their sets in and Hornby will replace them and send them back.

Looking online I found a picture of the production samples that were on display in Margate in January but unfortunately they only show the side where the writing is straight.

So Hattons, Rails of Sheffield and Kernow have all uploaded photos of the actual model and the wonky writing is apparent on all three so its obviously a full batch-wide issue. Will be interesting to see what Hornby are willing to do about it. I am aware that 'Derails' model shop are on the case. Am I right in thinking that the Hornby class 60 model doesn't have any wiring connecting the body to the chassis making a body replacement very simple?

Perhaps not two motors but I like the idea of all pin connector so between the two power cars and through the coaches. Would mean you’d only need one decoder but could have two speakers (one in each power car). Interior lighting in the coaches would be a doddle that way too, although I’m sure the price would increase quite a bit for the coaches.

Thats interesting. I can’t imagine they would have signed off on this. Does the production run delivery from China go via Hornby for inspection when they arrive or do they go direct to retailers? I am not aware of the problems with the Class 60. Am I right in thinking the IEP issue was that it was derailing on curves and Hornby allowed customers to return their set for repair?

My layout is end to end. A lot of people only have short layouts or TMD's. No excuse from Hornby not to be able to get a decal straight for the very high price they are charging for them. These are not cheap models. Not that funny. The painted out windows are not incorrect as far as I can see. They're all in the right place.

Thats a real shame. In that you can’t even use them one way round to hide the imperfection on the other side. Also weird because the ‘railway’ part looks straight enough, it’s the ‘improving your’ bit that’s wonky. I would have thought that that would all be printed together so it’s either all wonky or all straight. If anyone else receives their power cars in the next few days it’ll be interesting to see if this is a bad on everyones. EDIT: Looks like they are all like that. Kernow just uploaded some images on their website and they have exactly the same problem on one side.

Not necessarily but it happened last year with the Scotrail set, people barely commented on it and now it looks like its happened again.

I was worried that this might happen. The Scotrail HST's from last year had wonky branding on them too (the 'city' in the 'inter7city') and this looks even worse. This is where I feel Hornby really let down us modern image modellers as this sort of stuff wouldn't be tolerated in the Steam community. Hopefully this picture is just a bad set but I have a feeling its not.

Two left if anyone wants one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353117875645?ViewItem=&item=353117875645

Damn. Went to watch the first half of football while waiting for a reply to my message and now they've all gone.

Fair enough. Good prices on those power cars with the discount but the postage is a rip at £9.90 considering Derails are offering free postage on all order on their website.