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On 26/05/2021 at 17:10, The Johnster said:

Containers are boxes and you have to trust the paperwork that the box contains what it says it contains.  Sadly not everybody who puts the stuff in the boxes is always completely honest, and may simply be trying to save money, unaware of the risks. That said, there are always those that will do it regardless of the risk to other people miles away that they do not know or give a …. about.  

Probably calcium hyperchlorite, normally in smaller containers within the ISO container, should normally be stowed on deck, if in a hold or occasionally in the middle of a stack, then it can overheat and spontaneously combust. Regular occurrence, like tank entry deaths.

On 16/04/2021 at 23:46, Tankerman said:

 

To give some idea of how much momentum large ships have the following might be of interest. In 1968 I did my first trip, as Junior Electrical Officer, on the Ottawa of Trident Tankers. As we had just come out of drydock and the ship's hull was very clean, the Captain was instructed to carry out a test to calculate how long and what distance the ship would take to come to a complete stop. 

 

The test was carried out when we were in the doldrums to minimise any external wave action, the ship was ballasted down to her summer full load draft, which equated to 93,000 deadweight tons, to maximise the level of kinetic energy and worked up to her maximum speed of 16 knots. The main engine steam supply was then cut off by tripping the ahead main steam valve to simulate a blackout (complete loss of the electrical supply) and the rudder kept in the dead ahead position. 

 

If I remember correctly she travelled just over seven miles and the elapsed time was around one hour. The Ever Given is over twice that tonnage and the hull shape is much finer as the service speed of container ships is in the range of 20 to 25 knots and the figures would be much higher.

I was Chief engineer on this beast in the very early 90’s we did a similar test, she was around 359,000 DWT think, it took us 15 NM to come to a halt from full speed whilst fully loaded.

Same trip we went through the canal in ballast to Yanbu, with a small electronic issue that meant going astern was a bit of an issue ( big MAN B&W S80 MC diesel). Anchoring in the Bitter Lakes was a little hairy to say the least..... but that is another story.

On 17/04/2021 at 07:08, adb968008 said:

Ships keep getting bigger...

 

If the canal doesn't, then sooner or later ships will have to go a different way, as the Manchester Ship Canal discovered.

Before the work on the canal, there used to be a more severe restriction on the number of vessels in each of the convoys as they used to have to cross in the Bitter Lakes. The new channels allow more ships to cross and therefore more ships = more money.....

Ground effect craft have been part of the ‘toys’ offered on some Megayachts for a while - I recall there being a discussion about 10 years ago (similar to hovercrafts) as to whether they were a plane or a boat.....

Hi Jeremy,

Happy New Year to you as well, I was thinking about doing the same with mine, the faded blue is very 'faded', I think I'm going to weather the colour down a bit to see how it looks before I re-apply some darker rail blue. Mind you, I'll have to fish everything out of the cupboards after the festivities first!!

Dave

Oh , that's how I was trying it, oh well, time to have another go (maybe a Gin might help!)

Cheers

Dave

Jeremy,

A bit off topic I know, but, how are you going to paint the jumper cables in on the 86's? I've been trying with a 4O brush and I'm obviously too old to get the paint int he right place!!

Dave

Phil, Jeremy is right, buy an airbrush and have a go, I use railmatch paints and thinners, I prefer the enamels, I find them easier to apply. I have 3 rail blue 86's and 2 in intercity along with an 87 under way at the mo. I'll try and put a couple of pictures up over the weekend.

I will say my track and tracklaying is nothing like Jeremy's and this thread is a real pleasure to read and feel jealous about! But seriously it is a pleasure to read.

Dave

Hi Jez,

Smashing paintwork, I have done a few 86's now, although my 2 latest ones have the jumpers and the hi intensity headlights, as there were at least 3 loco's in repainted in blue after their refit, there was 86257 and 86402 and I think both kept the livery well into 1989. There are others but I don't have the numbers with me. The blue you have used is a touch faded, but by 89 who knows (I'll admit to the same blue on mine!!)

Keep up the good work.

Dave

Wow, I am so impressed, compared to my desultory attempts at track laying this is so impressive. I must admit that I have looked at a 'prototype' model, but don't have the space to do something so complex and have stuck with a non-prototypical northern WCML option. (slow steps).

I have no real option now as I have 10 motorised 86's and 2 dummy's plus a dummy 87 (i've managed to fit an old TPM kit to a Dapol chassis). I have 5 86 bodies in paint and the 87 is nearing completion in IC livery to complete before any more track is laid. I have just completed an early 86 (no headlights or jumpers) in faded blue and it looks great, just need some added weathering to tone it all down. I'll try and post some pictures if I can.

Cheers

Dave

  

Hi,

 

Cav is right, I got them from TPM. Worth the effort swapping them over as you can't beat brass buffer replacements.

 

Best regards,

 

Jeremy

Jeremy,

Brilliant, thanks, just bought some bits from Bernard so will have to pester him again!!

Dave

That's a good shot for what you are doing. Really helps visualise the finished model.

 

Yes Jeremy I am keen to get more of your electrics repainted. I do love a WCML loco and the Dapol class 86's are lovely given a bit of a fettle. 

Hi Cav (RBE),

Apologies for the hijack, but just a quick question about the work you are doing on Jeremy's Class 86's when you replace the buffers which (or whose) do you use to replace the originals with?

Dave

Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for looking in. The headlight was removed with a knife and then sanded down to finish with the small hole remaining filled in with plastic filler. The resprays are the superb handy work of Cav (RBE on rmweb). I'm hoping to persuade him to do a few more for me!

 

Are you building a WCML based layout?

 

Best regards,

 

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,

Really just got back into modelling after selling all my fathers old stock, I had a couple of Farish 90's and a TPM 87 kit plus some of his older 86 conversions for the Farish 87, which I never got around to using (in the late 80's early 90's) So roll on today I saw the Dapol 86's and now have 5 runners and 3 dummy versions, I'm not sure if I want to run blue versions or the sector versions or maybe both!. I have 86902 which has duff lights so I'm thinking of 'fixing' this by taking the headlight and cables off to respray in blue. If this works it could well transform my mainly freight NW England line into a full on 4 track section of WCML.

I just wish the Farish 90 and  87 were a better model to be honest, then I would expand my stock with a couple of each.

Dave

Hi,

I only found this thread yesterday, I am building my stock of 86's at the moment, are you doing the respray/modelling yourself, I noted on one of your intercity branded versions there is no HI Headlight fitted, was the cut off and filled?

Cheers

Dave