Andy_C

Photo dump from today’s activities; 

• Diesel shed door handles painted, 
• Piece of track fitted to properly accommodate the (currently white) buffer,
• Platform ballasted at north end of P2/3,
• Platform 1/2 edges ballasted,
• Platform 2/3 south end ballasted,
• coping plastruct fitted to wall to coaling stage. Will need further alterations to actually look like the coping stones further along this feature. 

Yesterday was painting some bits, and making a mess with polystyrene.

The platform edge and ramp have come out a little dark, so I’ll lighten that up midweek. Weathering the track will also add to this, in due course.

Played around with hill contours. I think I need to fit the scenic break board to the side of this hill to give it more context. Another job added to the list. 

Tunnel/hill planning and implementation…

…ongoing…

On 08/03/2024 at 15:38, Crepello said:

Presumably these will have the same non-standard NEM pocket as the 5 and 7 plank opens. 

Yes - P purchased a couple of mineral and box vans, hoping the Dapol Easi-Shunt couplings would fit in. No chance. a good friend sorted using the Peco coupling, gluing it to an easi-shunt, to then finds the coupling was slightly too high from the rail  to work. Ho hum.

Photo 1 - tunnel lining attached to the frame. Needed pva’ing as I wasn’t convinced the Redutex would stick long-term to the balsa.

Photos 2 & 3 show platform progress. Since these images, I’ve one-striked any gaps, so when the surfaces get weathered, the surfaces will look seamless. I need to introduce some shaping to the surface, and also think about the platform mounted water crane mounting. The Redutex plus plasticard depth will allow a hole to be cut, if needed, to recess the water crane base etc.

Not a lot to show for last weekends efforts, due to golf getting in the way. Platform 1 with Redutex glued in place. I’m on it tomorrow, tho. 3/4 of platform 2/3 are measured and fitted, so will be glued in place. Photos to follow. 
 

The Redutex red brick sheets have arrived, so hopefully the tunnel scenic bit will be done.

Today was experimenting with painting/weathering the platform edges. I used a mid grey colour from Phoenix Precison, heaving diluted so it would run and wipe off. My 1st attempt wasn’t diluted enough - thankfully it was on an as yet unconnected piece. I painted the diluted mix on, and then wiped it along using kitchen towel. A very happy accident. The photos show a ‘before/after’ paint, the far platform painted with the nearer one not, and then with all painted.

The greyer, darker colour is more akin to the colour photos I have of the edges at Mansfield. 

1 hour ago, gingerangles said:

Looking good @Andy_C 👍 

I meant to ask was the tunnel portal and stone work from Redutex as well as the brick work?

Duncan constructed the tunnel with preformed plasticard from Squires. The Stone on the tunnel is the same as on the photo above of the platform edge for the goods platform - I need to paint that up. The plasticard brick strip around the mouth of the tunnel is from the same place.

I'll use Redutex brick inside the tunnel for several reasons; its more bendy that the plastic, it has an adhesive to the back of it and also will accept airbrush/paint.

The top two photos show some thoughts around the hill form. A work in progress. Nothing glued etc.

The third photo shows platform 3(forefront), with the recently glued goods platform edging in the back ground

2nd tunnel constructed, and glued. Waiting for it to dry. This one will be removable. The interior will be painted black acrylic, to banish any light bleed into the scenic tunnel. 
 

Moved onto the station platforms. Glued some stone effect plasticard (from Squires) onto the front of the goods platform. Tomorrow will be further time on the main platforms. I’m going to look at starting the painting of the mortar bits between the stone. Will be a wipe off jobby, me thinks. I can then think about the platforms being permanently screwed in, and the remaining ballasting around them completed.  

5 hours ago, gingerangles said:

Hi @Duncan. - is the attendance of the layout at those shows confirmed?  I'd love to see it before it's retired.  Also will you be updating here with regards the raffle - it would be nice to contribute.

I can be cheeky, ‘cos I’m helping with Shirebrook at both exhibitions - but yes both are confirmed. 

4 hours ago, gingerangles said:

I'm looking to start making up some platforms myself soon for Edwinstowe, thought it made sense to get those in and the track lined up nicely with them as they will be a significant part of my layout.  I see you have used timber with some form of edging for the stone work - is that Redutex also?

My platform edges are Peco! I know some look down their noses at such, but the cut stone finish in N of the Peco edge is very similar to what was at Mansfield. Hopefully once weathered, with the platform surfaces(Redutex backed onto 1/2mm plasticard for correct height) it will look ok.

The track at the platforms is dead straight. No kinks. I used a tracksetta to get it about right, and then a steel 1 metre ruler to ensure ‘straight’. As you know, being local, when you look down the track at Mansfield it is ‘dead’ straight. 😉

A big bonus is once ballasted, I can remove the track screws…
 

1 hour ago, gingerangles said:

Have you decided about track cleaning through the tunnel - are you going to make it removable in some fashion?

In a word, yes. The scenic part will remain in place, but the longer stretch after will be removable. Photos to follow. Duncan and me discussed just that during his most recent ‘flying’ visit. I’ve never had a derailment on this curve. It’s one continual piece of code 80 for both tracks, and the ballast has been meticulously cleaned off the track. I’ll do several checks of this before the tunnel frame is set in place. The brick work needs heavily weathering - almost mucky black soot effect. Almost a shame to spoil the lovely Redutex brickwork. 🫣
 

I’ll put the hill foundations in 1st(after weathering the scenics part of the track, of course), and then work out which bit will lift out. 
 

Finishing this phase of ballasting has opened up lots of other schemes of modelling I can now progress.

We also discussed stone wall construction, station platform finishing, creating an underpass on P2 to the gents toilets and other ‘next steps’. 

The 1st and 4th photos show the tunnel, with the inner frame in place. The red brick you can see is Redutex. I don’t have enough to complete it at the moment. More is on the way. 
 

The 2nd photo shows the balsa frame for the arches. I’m really pleased with ow this came out. It’s very solid, and will support the Redutex brick well. I need to decide whether I can trust the adhesive on the back of the Redutex, or just to be safe will apply some pva in suitable places.

The third photo shows the tunnel profile but, as in photo 2, the tunnel mouth is now screwed in place. That can now have some ballast etc placed round it to bed it in.

6 hours ago, gingerangles said:

Looks good @Andy_C I particularly like the realistic appearance of the tunnel opening! Very realistic and accurate to what you'd see round us. 👍

I can’t claim credit for that. @Duncan. Did that for me…😉

Further work on the tunnel frame. This needs to provide support for the internal tunnel walls, so when you look down the line, the train appears/disappears into Hunnisett Tunnel and into darkness. The balsa opening was cut to 115% of the tunnel template, to allow for the brickwork to be glued to the arches. I’ve worked out a way of getting the curves right, using some wood/balsa glued to the baseboard. Easier to show an image or two once that’s been done. The tunnel frame itself will be able to be lifted out, to alleviate the issue of derailments and track cleaning.

It’s not lost on me that all this prep will only be known about from those I tell, and who read this thread. Ho hum😉

This phase of ballasting complete. Some patches after hoovering, but I’ll sort them when I get to fitting the station platforms in place. Only one point gave me a little pain during the class 25/40 test run - that was down to a bit of dry/clear glue I couldn’t see until I squinted. 
 

Next is to tidy the room up. I then plan to construct the inner tunnel walls, then the tunnel/hill, and sort the station platforms out.
 

I can now run trains again for a bit! 

The photos are excellent, but this model looks lovely in the flesh. The detail and relief is very realistic.

Some images of some unusual stock running today…😉

Nice - glad you are getting there regarding what to model. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.

Hi

Loving reading of your journey, and looking forward to how it develops.

Could I mention the top r hand side of your plan? Where it says 'Temple on the Hill, those points would not necessarily be with the track direction, if you get my meaning. Any loco would have to go past, and then reverse onto the other track? Unless you have a plan showing this way for that config? Also could you not use curved points there so you have a lovely sweeping 2 1/2 foot curve? The points you have at 'girder bridge' are the 'correct' way round.

When I did my layout construction, I got advice on both these points (ouch), and took that advice. The more sweeping the curve, the more authentic it will look?

I used flexi and code 55 electro-frog points. I screwed my track down, as I knew later that once ballasted I could remove the screws, as the pva glue used for ballasting would hold the track in place. Cork or foam underlay is fine, until you ballast. I've spoken to loads of modellers at shows and they all said the same thing, the cork/foam will be ok until ballasted - and then it will just get noisy again...

Finally, code 55 double slips are lovely, but temperamental IME. If you are using any, lay them carefully and don't over screw them in. They will test the back-to-back accuracy of your rolling stock!

Also, what point motors do you intend using? This will influence whether you need to leave the point springs in or not.

A quick photo of the tip/railway room. I'll tidy it down again once the ballsting of the station board is complete. I can't run anything anyway, whilst ballasting, as all my point motor rod holes are covered...

The 1st photo shows bubbling after PVA'ing the ballast to the siding next to P3. I'ver no idea why this happened at all. All glues, alcohol mixtures used were the same as before. It did settle back down after 24 hours, so thankfully will only need a bit of remedial work.

The 2nd image is of the ballasted track between P1 and P2. The track hasn't been cleaned off, or any stray bits of chinchilla sand removed yet. I tend to do that at the end of the ballasting of a section or area. I'm very pleased with how this has turned out, as the track ballast for the original stn was flat like this. I may need to add a little very fine sand in before weathering, but for now this is ok.

The third photo is of the point work, just ballasted, feeding the entrance to the goods sidings at Mansfield. The original diagrams didn't have a loop around the stn in this way. This loop has been added to aid running and functionality. The gaps in the woodwork are where Belvedere St Bridge will be modelled. I've left a bit of latitude as to how this will look. The wood may need cutting further to get closer to the track work - again another TTBD.

Not far off the station side ballasting being completed, now. Another couple of good sessions should sort it.

I then intend to look at the station platforms, and weather them pre fitting. The track weathering will then dirty the platforms and edges up even more.

53 minutes ago, gingerangles said:

Hey all.

Just stumbled across this site and this thread trying to decide upon a subject model for a layout. I'm from Mansfield and was looking round local stations for inspiration and found this. It's given me a lot of food for thought as I seem to be having the same difficulties in deciding as you did to start. Can't seem to find any decent maps of the GCR Station layout either which may help me make up my mind.

Anyway, great work! It looks awesome and seems to be coming along really nicely. I'll be keeping a close eye on progress.

BTW - I can't see a lot of the earlier jpgs on the post... do they only last for so long?

Hi there,

My research has cost me quite a bit of dosh! In all seriousness, if you need any station maps of the Town (current) station, PM me? As you are local, I can always do Costa if easier!

My interpretation will contain many original features, but with some artistic licence to aid functionality and make it more of a 'model' than a 'toy', hopefully.

Fab. Liking the ballast shading…